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polimpa84 06.03.2011 21:19

Whose job?
 
Вложений: 2
Tell me please who may belong to these works??

photo only until such can know??

Oil on canvas, 80h65sm

judging from the preserved and the canvas, I think 20-30 years

наследник 06.03.2011 21:35

Hooligan work.
But do not Mitka.

Алек Сандер 07.03.2011 00:23

I would say that this is Vyacheslav Kalinin. Nonconformist. Was intimately acquainted with Zverev, Plavinsky etc. Many exhibiting, including the Tretyakov Gallery. At the moment, in good health as far as I know. Recently, it was about a film based on "culture." So if in doubt blame, try to search its coordinates (alas, he do not know them).

But judging by the photos, this is clearly Kalinin. He has a very distinctive style.

Игорь Гурьев 07.03.2011 01:44

Kalinin.

Hardly a fake.

Do not see the point.

Игорь Гурьев 07.03.2011 18:43

In general at Kalinin is exactly the same pattern.

That she is, or a copy?

polimpa84 07.03.2011 19:11

Designers can repeat?

Игорь Гурьев 07.03.2011 19:38

Цитата:

Сообщение от polimpa84 (Сообщение 1548163)
can be the author's repetition?


The probability of this is extremely small.

Алек Сандер 07.03.2011 19:50

That's why I said: It is better to find the author.
Copyright confirmation will still come in handy - the work will look more impressive, even if the creator is obvious.
And the author is always a joy to see my old paintings.

I-V 07.03.2011 20:01

Look here - curious:

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=27335

Игорь Гурьев 07.03.2011 21:16

polimpa84, if you want a more definite opinion, take some pictures of the fragments in the daylight.

In daylight.


Well, the fragments of two palms, the big picture.

polimpa84 07.03.2011 21:35

after 2 weeks of taking pictures, I will make a good photo and then continue the discussion


THANK YOU ALL!

Алек Сандер 07.03.2011 22:05

Do not waste time discussing. Look for the author. This is always true, and guaranteed. Why do with someone to consult, if the author still alive? And more so, when there were cases of forgery, even bizarre cases? If the author does not confirm to you these pictures, all other views have no value. Well you know the name - that is enough. The author is alive, you can find it, and it can be addressed. What else is there to discuss? Well, unless you are pursuing some other goal.

I-V 07.03.2011 22:21

Цитата:

Сообщение от Alek Sander; 1548213"
the author is always a joy to see my old paintings.

Цитата:

Сообщение от Alek Sander (Сообщение 1548303)
Do not waste time discussing. Look for the author. This is always true, and guaranteed. Why do with someone to consult, if the author still alive? And more so, when there were cases of forgery, even bizarre cases? If the author does not confirm to you these pictures, all other views have no value. Well you know the name - that is enough. The author is alive, you can find it, and it can be addressed. What else is there to discuss? Well, unless you are pursuing some other goal.

Alec Sander, if it were that simple :rolleyes: "In honesty Kalinina, I have no doubt, but just in case, look :eek: ->

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...=765&highlight =%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%8C +%D0%B0 %D0%B2%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0

Алек Сандер 07.03.2011 22:55

Yes, thanks, I read about it. But what other option? Attributing a Silaeva? Maybe. Although I think that the force will soon send to the author. But all the forum will not say anything else except "I (almost) 100 percent sure that it Kalinin. So I just said it. It was obvious. But who will give papers on authorship? I? Igor Sasha? Thus, again we return to Silaev. And if Valeri will give atributatsiyu, pictures surrender to the auction, and there - see the story on the first link?

Since I was such a strange example, better access to the author, wait, what he says.

Assume there will be a piece of data laid out the pictures. Its all be considered. Someone may say: yes, it Kalinin. Someone may say: well, yes, certainly Kalinin. It would give the owner? These words have been uttered. Next, what? John Preston, too, was absolutely sure of the authorship, and look how it turned.

Well, or there is a way out: keep painting until such time as their creator will go into another world, much farther to confirm.

There were mixed two completely different issues. First, the original question was (quote): whose job? Answer: probably Kalinin. And so began a discussion on the second question: whether the original picture? Were given some interesting facts. And now at this moment, I believe, go to the third question: how to testify authorship documented? I gave my recommendation. Next business owner - to follow them or not.

I-V 07.03.2011 23:08

Alec Sander, really, I see that you and better than I know all this.
Of course, if the author is still alive - all questions to him, there not going anywhere.
Only wish the distinguished polimpa84 good luck.


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