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Vldr 05.03.2011 17:39

Authorship of the drawings, O. Braz?
 
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I hope for your professional help and advice.
Figure 1.2, presumably O. Braz (1873-1936)
2.vypolneny pencil on paper, paper with water marks, England, 1906
3.Risunki subscription worth 29.03.1909g date, and presumably the author of the attributive OB (See drawing and painting Braz)
4.Na figure for certain shows Stanislavsky and his wife MP Lilina.
5.Razmer figures about 35H25 see
6.100%reliability of the source of origin of the family of Stanislavsky.
7Dopolnitelnaya information for determining authorship: showing pictures to art of the Pushkin Museum - the first impression said that is very similar to OE Braz
(Reference: Braz OE, portraitist, has written to order the Tretyakov Gallery for its world-famous and unique in one's lifetime portrait of Anton Chekhov)
Compared female portrait Braz with my drawings, engineering images of a female hands are very similar.
Spent his little historical research - documented learned where he was and what was happening in the life of Stanislavsky in the day, which is dated the 2 drawing.
From a letter to Stanislavsky March 31, 1909 that it was all those days on tour in St. Petersburg (to give performances Three Sisters and The Blue Bird) to attend the performances Veal Prince Constantine Konstantinovich.
March 29 falls on a Sunday and holiday Pashi.No about what happened that day and who could draw them a word.
After 7 days, Stanislavski writes that he was invited to Tsarskoe Selo, where the present Emperor, and where was the show, which played all the same carried. Prince Constantine Konstantinovich.Posle Performance
Botkin and Diaghilev staged a dinner to which were invited, as Stanislavsky wrote a lot of artists, including Benoit, Dobuzhinsky, Roerich, et al Brazee word.
Here almost all the known circumstances, except for one (it I will not describe, unless the attribution "Brazovskii" may have some relation to the signature, Braz.
Thank you for your interest and help and waiting for your opinions.

наследник 05.03.2011 19:15

Vldr, with such arguments is any doubt?
That you are nothing.

Vldr 05.03.2011 19:42

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Vldr, with such arguments is any doubt?
That you are nothing.

Now, if find diaries or letters Braz and find confirmation of his authorship of drawings cheats Stanislavsky - then we could consider the matter settled, but here would know where to look ????....
:rolleyes:

uriart 05.03.2011 20:13

Vldr, then the same!

Would know prikup-would live in Sochi!

наследник 05.03.2011 20:30

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Сообщение от Vldr (Сообщение 1546251)
If only to find diaries or letters Braz

When purchasing a package of potato Surely you need a business card Packer?
:)

Vldr 05.03.2011 21:28

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When buying a package of potato Surely you need a business card Packer?
:)


Packer certainly not, but here's what potatoes are not rotten and it must be real and feel, and if in doubt, and an incision (and suddenly not edible )....

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When buying a package of potato Surely you need a business card Packer? :)

Where to find a similar attribution, because he could not as an artist serious level so sign up only once, and handwriting, too, is unique for each cheloveka.kak address these issues a little blood (without money) in the visual arts?

наследник 06.03.2011 01:04

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Сообщение от Vldr (Сообщение 1546371)
how to address these issues a little blood (without money) in the visual arts?

Just as the king decided to issue the lunar soil.

Argued - on what ground the lunar module to do?
on a soft solid, Ali?

Korolev wrote to the terms of reference - "The Moon firm.

So you think - Braz.
And the point!

Вивьен 06.03.2011 17:42

Joseph Braz in another sign his work.
I only saw the signature "Braz."
No OB

Vldr 06.03.2011 20:36

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Сообщение от Vivien (Сообщение 1546903)
Joseph Braz in another sign his work.
I only saw the signature "Braz."
No OB


You are not observant - it's your nedostatok.Ya saw the signature and yat, and perhaps it is signed and BRAZOVSKIY, as he called portrait of Chekhov - not a portrait of Braz and Brazovskii portrait.

Вивьен 06.03.2011 20:52

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Сообщение от "Vldr (Сообщение 1547101)
You are not observant - it's your flaw.

Have you seen the work Braz signed OB?

Вивьен 06.03.2011 21:14

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I saw the sign and YAT

You are very observant - it is your dignity. A Latin I. Braz did not see?

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and maybe it is signed and Brazovskii

Sure, sure. A signed Serov Serov, Levitan - Levitanovsky and Repin - Repinovsky.
In 1907, Braz went to France, where he lived until 1911.
But based on your investigation, he could return to Russia for a day or two to draw the pictures you submit.

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how to call a portrait of Chekhov - not a portrait of Braz and Brazovskii portrait.

And you know why?
Once you have the biggest secret to tell - Chekhov did not like how it performed Braz.

vyadem 06.03.2011 21:39

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Looked at the signature Braz. Hard to say. "ON" all there is, found it on one prints. Otherwise, O. Braz, Braz, Braz.
Since the illustrative material on it a little, then I advise you to not simply show the art critic of the Pushkin Museum, and the search for his graphic work, and an analogue of such a signature.

Vivian, would say that the author's drawings of topics and this one - different hands. But one is difficult to judge, and stupid!
By signing, the "B" is completely different!

Us-tin 06.03.2011 21:48

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Сообщение от Vivien (Сообщение 1547143)
... Chekhov did not like how it performed Braz.

Yes, you're right ... abslyutno Czechs did not like this portrait ... Incidentally, this is referred to the fullest, perhaps, the writer's biography - a book by Donald Rayfield, "Life of Anton Chekhov's" ... Do not think for edification, gentlemen, but if someone did not read - read the obligatory ... Great book ... We strongly recommend ...

Вивьен 06.03.2011 23:46

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Сообщение от "vyadem (Сообщение 1547213)
Vivien, I would say that the author's drawings of topics and this one - different hands.
But one is difficult to judge, and even silly!

You are not completely understood.
I'm not so much drawing comparing how much a signature.
She presented to me the figure is a kind of monogram.
And no two letters next to D and B.

vyadem 07.03.2011 00:06

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Сообщение от Vivien (Сообщение 1547283)
You do not quite understand. I'm not so much drawing comparing how much a signature. She presented to me the figure is a kind of monogram. And no two letters next to O and B.

What you have focused on the monogram - it I understood. But just wanted to compare the technique of drawing. But while writing a message, you already put it here :). In technology, in my opinion, there are differences. But as said above it is difficult to judge one picture, you need a layer of work. This is to ensure that the theme author poprobyval find another schedule O. Braz.


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