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Dutch 03.03.2011 00:17

Dutch frame
 
Вложений: 5
Rama, Holland 17c.

The front part of the frame is made of black (ebony) tree.
Carrier part no doubt from eating.
Frame without the beetle, in good condition.

Price 6000 EUR.

uriart 03.03.2011 06:20

Dutch, you would still have sounded its internal size.

And with the zeros you do not mess up?

Dutch 03.03.2011 08:53

Since all zeros in order, and all sizes will certainly sounded tonight.

Wladzislaw 03.03.2011 17:56

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 1543321)
Dutch, you would still have sounded its internal size.

And with the zeros you do not mess up?!


There's really bad at math, you should still add 2 to 17 (and maybe 3) :)

Amateur 03.03.2011 19:32

Very much a step pattern on the frame is constant for the XVII century. I have two Swedish wooden frame with a similar figure carving. True, the fine for the graphics. They inserted an engraving 1911 and 1918, and did not seem to have never taken out. Especially boring step alternation of bumps - in exactly one inch, while the other - 3 /4'. Machine work. But whether such machines in the XVII century - the question ...

sergejnowo 03.03.2011 22:09

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Сообщение от "Amateur (Сообщение 1543893)
Machinery work

Yes, the beginning of the 20 th century.

Dutch 03.03.2011 23:20

Outer dimension 48h32, 36h20 internal.

sergejnowo 03.03.2011 23:47

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Сообщение от sergejnowo (Сообщение 1544041)
yeah, early 20 th century.

amendment.
Showed photos of frame antique dealer friend in Hamburg.
He laughed and said that yes, it is quite possible, and 17 th century, but only the basic tree, the material frame.
Frame old, and all that front, cover and paint are not very old.
Such technology was all the rage in 1900 - 1925 years. and is called the "piano-lacquer, black lacquer layered with subsequent polishing.
This tehnoligii, including engine performance in fitting the front part of the 17 th century to 300%was not.

Dutch 04.03.2011 00:03

Correction: lacquer there and not a penny! The whole front part - derevyaha! As iron, can not even imagine how out of it at all that it can be done. Luck is not even covered, just so polished frame. A technology "quick cutter" is just invented in Holland, which in fact distinguishes them frame this typical pattern.

Евгений 04.03.2011 08:02

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Сообщение от "sergejnowo (Сообщение 1544041)
yeah, early 20 th century.

I agree with you and this is at best ..

Dutch 04.03.2011 08:58

But what if the worst case??
Ftaleinovy Chinese plastic?

Евгений 04.03.2011 10:07

Dear Dutch, one of your "Dutch theme" http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=110251 already discussed the painting, worth 300-500 USD, you offered for 32,000 cu.
Now the Dutch frame, you are offering for 6000 Heb. Sense to discuss it? .. You all explained in the first comment ..
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Сообщение от uriart; 1543321"
And with the zeros you do not mess up?

Opinion at all ... one with zeros you mess up ..

sergejnowo 07.03.2011 23:34

Here is the old frame:

http://cgi.ebay.de/PLATTENRAHMEN-TOS...#ht_500wt_1156

Dutch 08.03.2011 13:06

The old frame?
 
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Of your turns, dirtier than the frame so it is older?
Look, so looks like my second frame of the same age as the first.
There is a difference?


And by the way, I'll be grateful if Cton would explain the inscription on the back side?

Amateur 08.03.2011 13:15

The inscription reads "№ 40".
And what can it mean?
Serial number?
Model number of frames in the catalog?
Exhibition room of the former in the picture frame?
God knows ...


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