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Влад55 18.02.2011 10:00

Selling landscape by Konstantin Somov
 
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Selling landscape Konstantin Somov 1902, cardstock, sm.tehnika size 47h61, 7 cm Is Finally GRM.
Painting in the Russian Federation: kuzvlad77@gmail.com

serg_str 18.02.2011 12:06

It would be interesting to look at the conclusion ...

Put please, photo.

Влад55 18.02.2011 12:10

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Conclusion timing to work by Konstantin Somov:

serg_str 18.02.2011 12:53

Thank you.

I could not find the conclusion of the standard phrase: "The authorship is confirmed by Konstantin Somov.
Very vague.
Did you try to get expertise in other places?
Yet Somov - surname of the first series ...

Мимопроходил 18.02.2011 13:05

In my opinion, very clearly written - even if it was, and Somov, for the present state of work is not important, only confirmed the handwriting on the reverse.
In general, for collectors of autographs ...

Влад55 18.02.2011 13:08

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Сообщение от serg_str (Сообщение 1532231)
Thank you.
I could not find the conclusion of the standard phrase: "The authorship is confirmed by Konstantin Somov. Very vague. Did you try to get expertise in other places? Yet Somov - surname of the first series ...

Read carefully the conclusion of timing, they authorship Konstantin Somov confirmed at the end of this opinion about this well-written. Work that they studied in their own timing about a year. As GRM are the best experts in K. Somov. From other places .... has been in the Department of Scientific Expertise GRC them. Academician IE Grabar. Qualifications of experts of this office is very low and they have no original works of artists to make a qualitative assessment, and GTG for these purposes they are no longer allowed.

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Сообщение от Mimoprohodil (Сообщение 1532261)
In my opinion, very clearly written - even if it was, and Somov, for the present state of work is not important, only confirmed the handwriting on the reverse. In general, for collectors of autographs ...

How do you know the original state of this work, you know that standing at the time of writing it next to K. Somov. I was very surprised by this conclusion timing individual phrases, in particular, zateki and splashes of white ... this artistic technique K. Somov applies in many of his landscape works of this period. And about their alleged (SRM) storage conditions of the picture ... Is a complete picture of the author. Work signed by K. Somov, signature and the year is right vnizu.Foto look.

Влад55 18.02.2011 13:23

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Сообщение от Mimoprohodil (Сообщение 1532261)
In my opinion , very clearly written - even if it was , and Somov , for the present state of work is not important , only confirmed the handwriting on the reverse . In general , for collectors of autographs ...

How do you know the original state of this work , you know that standing at the time of writing it next to K. Somov . I was very surprised by this conclusion timing individual phrases , in particular, zateki and splashes of white ... this artistic technique K. Somov applies in many of his landscape works of this period. And about their alleged ( SRM ) storage conditions of the picture ... Is a complete picture of the author . Work signed by K. Somov , signature and the year is right vnizu.Foto look .

Мимопроходил 18.02.2011 14:04

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Сообщение от Vlad55 (Сообщение 1532281)
How do you know the original state of this work, you know that standing at the time of writing it next to K. Somov ...

Yes, I do not claim to historical truth. In conclusion, clearly written: "... seems impossible to make correct stylistic and technological analysis, as well as fully reconstruct the author's intent. The totality of these circumstances, can not include this work in a number typical of Konstantin Somov works landscape genre ". Once you trust selectively expertise - believe in professional development, but ask not to pay attention to some of their conclusions. Vlad55, do not boil, no one in anything you do not accuse, just to sell the work on "somovskim" prices you probably need another examination <!--~ 6 "-" and another, more personal, method of sale. All IMHO, you all good luck!

тандем 18.02.2011 14:11

It clearly says that the work is not typical for som, but the inscription is beyond doubt.

Влад55 22.02.2011 12:12

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At the expense of tipichnosti.V timing and THG is working Konstantin Somov 1899-1902 year close to this, I put some pictures from the book by Irina Pruzhany 1972 "Konstantin Somov.

Влад55 04.03.2011 10:20

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The album "Somov, KA, Moscow, 1973, AP Gusarov, is typical of this period of creativity by Konstantin Somov works from the collections of the State Tretyakov Gallery:

Влад55 28.04.2013 11:53

The picture in the sale.

khmelev 28.04.2013 12:45

it is curious that the painting was commissioned for examination in April of 2010 , and the conclusion was obtained only in January 2011.
Something that explains the dlittelnaya work with this material ? The contract is in fact a three-month ...
More touches in the securities of these timing reference handwriting. Upon closer inspection, it turns out that none of the staff belt has no right to conduct handwriting examinations .
That is, judgment is issued based on the principle of " like - not like ." This is an important criterion , but in the expert opinion it is unlikely to have any meaning .
In the history of riusunkami Azadovsky Kit said that the handwriting Benoit "did not like " on Benoit , and handwriting analysis has determined that it is the handwriting of Benoit .
And why not make a really expert in Moscow?

Влад55 28.04.2013 13:00

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Сообщение от khmelev (Сообщение 2575881)
curious that the painting was commissioned for examination in April of 2010 , and the conclusion was obtained only in January 2011.
Something that explains the dlittelnaya work with this material ? The contract is in fact a three-month ...
More touches in the securities of these timing reference handwriting. Upon closer inspection, it turns out that none of the staff belt has no right to conduct handwriting examinations .
That is, judgment is issued based on the principle of " like - not like ." This is an important criterion , but in the expert opinion it is unlikely to have any meaning .
In the history of riusunkami Azadovsky Kit said that the handwriting Benoit "did not like " on Benoit , and handwriting analysis has determined that it is the handwriting of Benoit .
And why not make a really expert in Moscow ?

Paid for examination at a rate so as long and tedious to write a conclusion. After such a "dialogue" with the museum staff , there is no desire for further examination , in St. Petersburg , in Moscow. Me and without their expertise was clearly at 100%, this pattern is written K.Somovym .

khmelev 28.04.2013 13:08

Excuse me, but what does "additional"?

Tell us more, please.

Sell ​​this thing without the Moscow market is unlikely to succeed today.

Is that "as a friend" and not very expensive <! - ~ 1 ~ ->


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