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Art-lover 06.12.2008 01:04

Painting PK Stolyarenko
 
Вложений: 4
Now selling PK Stolyarenko "Spring Flowers" (cardboard, oil, 48x59sm, 1968, Yalta).
Since 1970. belongs to my family.

Вложение 73135Вложение 73145Вложение 73155Вложение 73165

Art-lover 13.12.2008 22:47

In the subsection "Ukrainian Artists" added
dedicated PK Stolyarenko theme
(biography, exhibitions, artistic materials).

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Created small album (see my profile), which presents options for registration of still life in the frame.
(The picture is sold in the frame, in which the artist put it).

Price - $ 7500
I shall consider counter-proposals
(write a personal message)

Art-lover 04.01.2009 01:13

New Anti-Crisis Christmas bonuses. :)

Олександр 15.01.2009 18:50

Miserable likeness! This is not a carpenter!

Art-lover 17.01.2009 23:04

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Сообщение от Oleksandr (Сообщение 189636)
miserable likeness! This is not a carpenter!

Yes, it is not Carpenter.
This - Stolyarenko Peter Kuzmich.

However, it would clearly I have not argued until exclamation hamovatogo "expert" to hang on this page, it will be achieved - a comfortable atmosphere submission beautiful picture is hopelessly corrupt, dobrosovesny seller slandered in mind the prospective buyer to cast doubt.

All this with a sweet childish: there do mischief, there ran for free advice ...
What a guy (his age, he points out - 20 years) hooked, it is clear: when he asked "whether it Samokish? Help identify?", One of the answers was "miserable likeness!"
So it is obviously impressed that he sought a pretext for somebody to win back. Finally found.

But why the forum participants should be ignorant, helpless victims of aggression?

It is called the topic "For Sale" instead of "helping to define.
This means that by offering a picture, a man of honor and good name vouches for the authenticity of information provided to them.
Under the rules of headings, any additional information of interest may be obtained through personal correspondence. Similarly, in a civilized manner can be resolved any doubts.

What self-respecting man will stand serious things where there is a "presumption of guilt"?
It turns out that any "mischief" or "well-wisher," hiding behind a nickname, may here rakish "mark" for 10 seconds, and outlined his "victim" should not sleep the night, smashing his head as the wash from the traces of his folly and swinishness?

The painting, which I have the honor to represent here, has an impeccable and verifiable provenance - from the time when no one has never occurred to forge work PK
Its artistic merits are obvious for any professional. And, of course, when buying it will be presented to the experts.
But why, actually, I was forced to prove that I am not a camel - for the amusement of the small demons?

Their protest with a request to hold harmless innuendo I have already sent Webmaster.
While he remains unanswered, I have overcome squeamishness and put this post here.

Such a "brick" can fall down on his head on the head of any party, doverivshimusya hospitality of this section.
So I duplicate this message to the heading "Discussion of the site and forum."

Sandro 17.01.2009 23:19

Dear, Art-lover, being accustomed to such "tricks" in the real world of antiques (one friend of ours - a client once said, "you do not have peace, you - small world!"), Serious people, who are potential buyers, simply ignored the post ungrateful man.
Do you have a wonderful picture, and if taken to heart all similar stuff, many forum users do not need to sleep;)

Кирилл Сызранский 17.01.2009 23:28

I will cite an example from another forum, but also antique, but the other subjects. There is a section Buy /Sell. But he is called-Commercial. And in that forum is strictly forbidden to discuss the exhibited items for sale.
Many sellers thence first in the section discussing the attribution of the participants, but no mention at all about the money. In the common themes that can not be done should be a warning.
And only then in the private commercial section gives a reference to the previous discussion. Who wants to, of course.
And this case with Stolyarenko-disgrace, I agree.

Glasha 17.01.2009 23:32

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Сообщение от Sandro (Сообщение 193126)
Do you have a wonderful picture

Again, you have a wonderful picture.

Go said as soon as you have placed.

I think this pathetic stunt pathetic "expert" should not prevent her from finding a new owner understands.

Кирилл Сызранский 17.01.2009 23:37

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Сообщение от Gala (Сообщение 193166)
Go noted as soon as you have placed.

I have noted that the seller has posted the album in its several variants in the frame of this picture. It is seen that the seller and the picture is respectful, and to a potential acquirer.

Glasha 17.01.2009 23:39

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 193186)
It is clear that the seller and the picture is respectful, and to a potential acquirer.

Yes, I liked it))

Евгений 18.01.2009 09:26

Цитата:

Сообщение от Sandro (Сообщение 193126)
all similar stuff,

This is the main problem of this forum, talk shit ever .. and not only the works of P. Stolyarenko.
I suggested more than once: in the section concord leave the ability to edit for forum participants (against people).
Effect on the destruction of paintings "distinguished" Oleksandr reached 100%, but it simply takes the example of other "respected members" on the forum, all this has been discussed for 7-8 months, it was no use.
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P /S Painting collector, a great artist.

Admin 18.01.2009 10:30

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 193566)
The effect on the destruction of paintings "distinguished" Oleksandr reached 100%

Well, in this case, thanks to strong support from other forum participants, the effect is just the opposite has turned out - the honor and good name of the seller's paintings restored and, moreover, now a potential buyer should have no unnecessary doubt its authenticity, if the seller provides a proven provenance and expert opinion.

Regarding the party Oleksandr is the solution. He must either provide irrefutable evidence of his claim, or public apology master paintings. If this is not done within three days (until 22 January), the account Oleksandr and its IP-address will be blocked forever. I sent him a warning in a personal message.

Discussion of the rules in "Buy /Sell" continues in the theme "Is it possible to protect from vandalism?", initiated by Art-lover-th.

Олександр 18.01.2009 15:10

Цитата:

Сообщение от Admin (Сообщение 193646)
Well, in this case, thanks to strong support from other forum participants, the effect is just the opposite has turned out - the honor and good name of the seller's paintings restored and, moreover, now a potential buyer should have no unnecessary doubt it authentication, if the seller provides proven provenance and expert opinion.

Regarding the party Oleksandr is the solution. He must either provide irrefutable evidence of his claim, or public apology master paintings. If this is not done within three days (until 22 January), the account Oleksandr and its IP-address will be blocked forever. I sent him a warning in a personal message.

Discussion of the rules in "Buy /Sell" continues in the theme "Is it possible to protect from vandalism?", initiated by Art-lover-th.

Good day, dear forum members, I have lived and worked in the Crimea, I am familiar with Peter Kuzmich lichno.Videl many of his works and a lot of similarities (falshakov). In our time, dear participants, too many poddelok.Krym is the heart of the "Activities . Tsvetkov, Spring, Zakharov, Stolyarenko.Etih influential artists "paint" each year, selling is not expensive, in the frame, at any vkus.V mainly for tourists to the town-VAS.Odin time I slept, vtyuhali bullshit me a decent amount . I am writing this for those people who are just beginning or bad razbirayutsya.Moi Comment on ART-LOVER, this is my personal opinion. Excuse me, I was wrong. Yes - It P.K Stolyarenko.

antip 18.01.2009 15:51

By Authority.
Olexandr-young, hot, especially the forum is not accustomed.
"Repressed not pardon."

Art-lover 18.01.2009 17:46

Apologies accepted. Incident ischepan.
Let's summarize the olive line, and, as suggested by Admin, talk about improving the rules of the section will continue in the theme "Is it possible to protect from vandalism? "
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Thank you all for moral support and kind words about the picture - again felt sorry to see her go ...
Once it happened, that it has attracted attention, revealing a secret.
This is not quite the usual sale. If the "Spring Flowers" will find a new owner, then maybe they will be destined to become part of the magical legends, symbolic and beautiful as a fairy tale by Andersen. And in this capacity over time to get into the art world, particularly famous ...
Anything more until I can not say, except that the new owner.


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