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Ika-Ika 16.01.2011 12:06

I wanted to tell the author?
 
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He wanted to say the author?
I have long wanted to create a theme and offer it to maintain, continue and develop. After all, any writer just always something to say to his work. There can be nothing to say ... :), although it happens. This topic can be serious (have something to talk to artists about what a particular product and not just painting), and funny, so make a joke in this thread will definitely be something to ... This issue may be of interest to collectors and art historians, and simply art lovers, because it is interesting because to try to unravel the thought and feeling of the artist, which he lays in his work.

Propose a form of communication in this topic:

 One of my favorite artists - it's Leonid Solomatkin. I had not really paid attention to his work and even the youthful extremism treated them graciously, foolishly comparing it with Fedotov. One of the works Solomatkin in the Tretyakov Gallery - "Wandering Musicians". She stopped me and forced to think about. Here's how I read this work. The work was written in 1872. It shows the musicians (this is understandable), <!--~ 1 "-" to lead a retired soldier, probably a drummer, Russia lost the Crimean War of 1853-1856. The fact that this former soldier is seen and headdress, and hiking clothes and a stick on which he relies, but the patient is moving forward, and on a sad note with a drooping mustache, and most importantly, what is all the sad irony Solomatkin - a tambourine in his hand, a tambourine with rattles, rather than regimental drum company in the attack and lift an evil monkey on his back, as the marching-on luggage. This whole procession of dressed up, even dog runs in the hood musicians whine, but soldiers are not dressed in colorful rags, he is all in the thoughts, but it looks the same disguised as his companions. And where is this cavalcade? In town, people cherish the music, under the dog's howl with a rattle. People need a holiday! Yes, this is a very sad picture, and they're all so multifaceted and tragic at Solomatkin only start to solve.
 And I read somewhere that the 19 th century Russian art "literaturotsentrichno", ie word, thought in the forefront of the artist, unlike the artists of Europe.

artcol 16.01.2011 13:04

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Сообщение от Ika-Ika (Сообщение 1471021)
And I read somewhere that the Russian art of the 19 century "literaturotsentrichno", ie
word, thought in the forefront of the artist, unlike the artists of Europe.

On this job, I would not say so.

fabosch 16.01.2011 13:55

Solomatkin - one of zamechatelneyyh underrated figures of Russian art. He was never in the mainstream, it is not as well known. I think it is very important landmark on the other, alternative ways of development ruska art, the opposite direction of the Wanderers. This is the path of the icon through parsuna through such masters as Argunov, Vishnyakov, Antropov, Fedotov, Venetsianov to Larionov and Goncharova.
This is an amazing artist. His literary apparent. It certainly is, but all is redeemed his magical paintings. It's like Fedotova - everything is there, and the plot, and morality, and the mass of domestic details, but his paintings are going out, forgetting about all these subjects and morality.
And here at Perov it was never forgotten, although he, of course, a wonderful artist - but very different.
So in this amazing picture. You are all true write about everyday details (costumes, instruments) - but it absolutely brilliant painting! What expression! And nothing more!

Ika-Ika 16.01.2011 14:04

Thank you ogromnoe.Ya thought this conversation would not have prodolzheniya.A all about money and talking about money here, though indirectly, at least explicitly. Swear sporyat.Ya madly in love his paintings and it is dear to me that this hand is not a safe rich academic, and some holy muchenika.Predstavlyayu as condescending to his paintings included elders, if they do it with such videli.Nemudreno talent sleep.

artcol 16.01.2011 14:11

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Solomatkin - one of zamechatelneyyh underrated figures of Russian art. He was never in the mainstream, it is not as well known. I think it is very important landmark on the other, alternative ways of development ruska art, the opposite direction of the Wanderers. This is the path of the icon through parsuna through such masters as Argunov, Vishnyakov, Antropov, Fedotov, Venetsianov to Larionov and Goncharova.
This is an amazing artist. His literary apparent. It certainly is, but all is redeemed his magical paintings. It's like Fedotova - everything is there, and the plot, and morality, and the mass of domestic details, but his paintings are going out, forgetting about all these subjects and morality.
And here at Perov it was never forgotten, although he, of course, a wonderful artist - but very different.
So in this amazing picture. You are all true write about everyday details (costumes, instruments) - but it absolutely brilliant painting! What expression! And nothing more!

Chestnyakova forgotten.

fabosch 16.01.2011 14:18

Well I've got no artistic studies, but just a replica, so that the total number of names I did not try to lead - has written just the obvious.
But thanks anyway.
Although Chestnyakov for my taste, much thinner will all these

artcol 16.01.2011 14:23

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Well, I've got no artistic studies, but just a replica, so that the total number of names I did not try to lead - has written just the obvious. But thanks anyway. Although Chestnyakov for my taste, much thinner will all these

I just think that Solomatkin Chestnyakov and closer to each other than Solomatkin and listed your authors. It's like a different aesthetic. Well, okay, let's not go :)

Pavel 16.01.2011 14:26

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was trying to say the author?
I have long wanted to create a theme and offer it to maintain, continue and develop. After all, any writer just always something to say to his work. There can be nothing to say ... :), although it happens. This topic can be serious (have something to talk to artists about what a particular product and not just painting), and funny, so make a joke in this thread will definitely be something to ... This issue may be of interest to collectors and art historians, and simply art lovers, because it is interesting because to try to unravel the thought and feeling of the artist, which he lays in his work.

Propose a form of communication in this topic:

 One of my favorite artists - it's Leonid Solomatkin. I had not really paid attention to his work and even the youthful extremism treated them graciously, foolishly comparing it with Fedotov. One of the works Solomatkin in the Tretyakov Gallery - "Wandering Musicians". She stopped me and forced to think about. Here's how I read this work. The work was written in 1872. It shows the musicians (this is understandable), <!--~ 1 "-" to lead a retired soldier, probably a drummer, Russia lost the Crimean War of 1853-1856. The fact that this former soldier is seen and headdress, and hiking clothes and a stick on which he relies, but the patient is moving forward, and on a sad note with a drooping mustache, and most importantly, what is all the sad irony Solomatkin - a tambourine in his hand, a tambourine with rattles, rather than regimental drum company in the attack and lift an evil monkey on his back, as the marching-on luggage. This whole procession of dressed up, even dog runs in the hood musicians whine, but soldiers are not dressed in colorful rags, he is all in the thoughts, but it looks the same disguised as his companions. And where is this cavalcade? In town, people cherish the music, under the dog's howl with a rattle. People need a holiday! Yes, this is a very sad picture, and they're all so multifaceted and tragic at Solomatkin only start to solve.
 And I read somewhere that the 19 th century Russian art "literaturotsentrichno", ie word, thought in the forefront of the artist, unlike the artists of Europe.

I think here is for artists. No money on the road here and go on foot.

Peter 16.01.2011 14:30

Sergei, an interesting topic! Yes and interesting work by the fabulous artist you pokazali.Sama painting is some kind of association with Daumier (personally for me). And here is the plot of takie.Eto after a circus, traveling circus, where he will smile more kind of "artists" rather than self predstavlenie.Dusha person wants a holiday, but here comes a "circus", some poluvesele-polutoska, and then again pustota.Kak of vodka. :) "... Nafantaziroval understand ..

artcol 16.01.2011 14:33

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Sergei, an interesting topic, Yes, interesting work is remarkable hudozhnika.Sama painting is some kind of association with Daumier (personally for me). And here is the plot of takie.Eto after a circus, traveling circus, where a smile will soon form itself "artists" rather than self predstavlenie.Dusha person wants a holiday, but here comes a "circus", some poluvesele-polutoska, and then again pustota.Kak of vodka. :) "... Nafantaziroval understand ..

Circus Burned ...

Ika-Ika 16.01.2011 14:52

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I think here is for artists. No money on the road here and go on foot.

Of course that's artisty.A artists depicting ancient tragedy bask in the woods near the fire, who divorced in antique props, and theatrical wear is the only one where you can warm up, and intercourse between a man and a woman dialogues of the ancient high tragediy.I unclear, the protagonist arm stretched out toward the fire to keep warm, or it's something happening here deklamiruet.I terrible thing: all prevernulos, and the theater was great yavyu.Spasibo hudozhniku.A it they can Ostrowski repetiruyut.Chto something I razoshelsya.A can then both.

artcol 16.01.2011 15:06

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Of course that's artisty.A artists depicting ancient comedy bask in the woods near the fire, who divorced in antique props, and theatrical wear is the only one where you can warm up, and intercourse between a man and a woman dialogues from ancient Greek high tragediy.I unclear, the protagonist's hand stretched out toward the fire to keep warm, or it's something happening here deklamiruet.I terrible thing: all prevernulos, and the theater became yavyu.Spasibo great artist.

I remember Jarmusch and Gilliam.

NATA NOVA 16.01.2011 15:46

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Sergei, an interesting topic! Yes and interesting work by the fabulous artist you pokazali.Sama painting is some kind of association with Daumier (personally for me). And here is the plot of takie.Eto after a circus, strolling Circus, where a smile will soon form itself "artists" rather than self predstavlenie.Dusha person wants a holiday, but here comes a "circus", some poluvesele-polutoska, and then again pustota.Kak of vodka. :) "... Nafantaziroval understand ..

Peter, the townsfolk (fortunate) to be superior once again feel the will (also, probably, "svogo kind of" fun ..)

U_Z 16.01.2011 17:24

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what I wanted AUTHOR?

Ika-Ika, thanks for the theme!

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Here is the plot of takie.Eto after a circus, traveling circus, where he will soon smile kind of" artists "rather than representation itself.

I agree with Peter-th. In my opinion, this is not "wandering musicians," but rather "Puppet Show. Itinerant artists. Puppet Show - trade fair representation, the coarse, clownish, based on the rhyming byword, buffoonery, and endowed with different sound effects ... and without the circus, of course.

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Here's how I read this work. The work was written in 1872. It shows the musicians (this is understandable), they lead a retired soldier, probably a drummer, Russia lost the Crimean War of 1853-1856. The fact that this former soldier is seen and headdress, and hiking clothes and a stick on which he relies, but the patient is moving forward, and on a sad note with a drooping mustache, and most importantly, what is all the sad irony Solomatkin - a tambourine in his hand, a tambourine with rattles, rather than regimental drum company in the attack and lift an evil monkey on his back, as the marching-on luggage. This whole procession of dressed up, even dog runs in the hood musicians whine, but soldiers are not dressed in colorful rags, he is all in the thoughts, but it looks the same disguised as his companions. And where is this cavalcade? In town, people cherish the music, under the dog's howl with a rattle. People need a holiday! Yes, this is a very sad picture, and they're all so multifaceted and tragic at Solomatkin only start to guess.

Well, my vision of the plot pattern.

Along the dusty road leisurely wander wandering artists. In my opinion, the first character, but rather "invalid soldier, transfer to the reserve for injuries and has found himself in civilian life. Lost, overgrown (there was a beard, "not by statute, the back had grown long hair), he walks with difficulty, dragged his left foot and leans on a cane.
 
I think he just nailed to the former circus performers, and they gave him a barrel organ, the trained monkey and a tambourine with music skeet on the rim as the most simple musical instrument. (Military drummer, he was hardly, as the drum is changed to diamonds - "unacceptable for a real drummer <!--~ 1" -> ". I dare say this as a former drummer for pioneering instructor n /l Artek model 1983 :D)

Artist of the cylinder, most likely, previously worked in a circus trainer /clown /puppeteer, look how comfortably situated on his shoulder Parsley, but "the boy in the Hat", perhaps his son or grandson (see the type of face, nose, lips, chin).

They go netoropyas for ex-soldier, and play a trick on him, and he was hobbling, unable to hear them steeped in memories of past military service.

lusyvoronova 16.01.2011 17:44

Another great figure of the peasant to sene.Obernulsya look and turned away: Ah, life ... also love LI
Solomatkina.Spasibo!


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