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08.01.2011 21:46

What is special about "antiques"?
 
I have long been interesting to ask the experts whether there exist in nature, people who are gifted "talent" to distinguish the real thing from the antique, such as forgery (or "sleaze")? or this long study, work, and only with experience comes a flair? share experiences and stories, if any :)

Toinen 08.01.2011 22:55

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Сообщение от babochka (Сообщение 1462521)
long learning, work, and only with experience comes a flair "



The answer was contained in your question!

Pecheneg 09.01.2011 00:58

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Сообщение от babochka; 1462521"
are there in the nature of people who are gifted "talent" to distinguish the real thing from the antique, such as forgery (or "sleaze")? or this long study, work and only comes with experience is a "flair"?

How many times have I run an antiques experts, it usually boast more than znaniy.Za than narrow specialists, so they really can learn from and draw a lot of things useful.

09.01.2011 20:48

but as if determined by the "narrow specialists" and low-profile?

or here too apt adage "first do you work for the authority, then authority works for you?

Toinen 09.01.2011 21:07

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Сообщение от babochka (Сообщение 1463411)
low profile?



Low profile - a type of sport tire for the car.

Vlasta 09.01.2011 21:34

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Сообщение от babochka; 1463411"
and then defined as "narrow specialists" and low-profile?

I think the question itself somewhat irregular. You understand that others specialists examines only a thin slice of a region. This is, roughly, as a physician. Someone specializing in gynecology, someone on dentistry, and someone to cancer ... a lawyer - someone special in criminal law, some in civilian clothes, but there is also a family, and labor, etc. etc. Therefore, to talk about a low-profile professionals in this context is inappropriate. Low-profile - the one who has knowledge is not enough in principle. These and seek scary (you've come to the dentist, but he instead you removed the patient's teeth healthy ...: eek :). Pecheneg, in my opinion, human rights, learning is only narrow specialists, those who do not cover everything, but specializes exclusively in one particular area, as all know is impossible.

09.01.2011 22:48

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Сообщение от Toinen (Сообщение 1463431)
Low Profile - this type of sport tire for the car.

and it is true, but I thought there forum on art and the question of antiques.

Vlasta, my question was rather vague. so I wrote a "gazebo" not hesitate to write in specific sections.
I wanted to know (for example) where people learn how to become pros, as it comes. though and the example of a specific, narrow section of something (someone).
I do not always dare to write interesting topics for me, because how to formulate thoughts (question) briefly and clearly (and professionally) I find it difficult. obtained or long texts, or as in this once-a misunderstanding.
just had a conversation with colleagues about how can there be such a "talent instinct" in humans. have a friend knacker antiques, which has not studied the case anywhere else. just like old things, buying them in the opportunities available for him. I was surprised by this fact, so I asked here. I am not talking about the heights and millions of transactions Sotheby's :o I'm trying to think and learn for yourself something interesting and new.

Toinen 09.01.2011 23:02

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Сообщение от babochka (Сообщение 1463541)
and the question of antiques


There is no such term in antiques - "low profile"!

09.01.2011 23:12

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Сообщение от Toinen (Сообщение 1463561)
There is no such term in antiques - "low profile"!


Well, with this and start dating with antiques ..

Toinen 09.01.2011 23:17

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Сообщение от "babochka (Сообщение 1463571)
Well, from this and start dating with antiques


It's kind of fun?

09.01.2011 23:31

then I could answer you like a coin on the subject of English spelling.

but every fun as it may, I do not begin.
if you have something to say, we can tell anything to your antiques?
in addition to knowledge about "mother tongue"?
I was a mistake and has taken into account already opened the ABC ..

Toinen 09.01.2011 23:42

Is it kind of fun?


Is that better?

Pecheneg 10.01.2011 00:08

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Сообщение от babochka (Сообщение 1463541)
just had a conversation with colleagues about how can there be such a" talent instinct "in humans. have a friend knacker antiques, which has not studied the case anywhere else. just like old things, buying them in the opportunities available for him.

Need knowledge of market conditions antiques that will take, how fast and how expensive ... These buyers just know where and what to take, and where it is possible to attach ...
Trade tend to all on what you can earn a penny ... Not zamorachivayas about the history of origin of the object, the technology of its manufacture and not doing it in-depth study, or more precisely izucheniem.Skupayut ALL ....
Narrow specialists doing something one and concomitant material ...
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Сообщение от babochka; 1463541"
I wanted to know (for example) where people learn how to become pros, as it comes. though and the example of a specific, narrow section of something (someone).

There are some areas of antiques, collectibles, or more precisely, where no one and nothing ever teach you not to teach ... You just need to just extend yourself ...
I have a friend who has been studying the Byzantine bullae (drooping print), author of scientific researchers, historians, numizmat.Po some issues sphragistics advises the Hermitage ...
Bloom had not samouchka.Za many years did it all for himself ... patience, hard work, curiosity, inquisitiveness ... here Storerooms success in any field of hobbies ..

I-V 10.01.2011 00:23

Here's a short article about the expert and znatochestve (2008) famous collector Valery Dudakova:


http://www.openspace.ru/art_times/co...s/details/937/

10.01.2011 00:31

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Сообщение от IV (Сообщение 1463661)
Here's a short article about the expert and znatochestve (2008) famous collector Valery Dudakova:


http://www.openspace.ru/art_times/co...s/details/937/



thanks much!
but about the learning process is very close ..


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