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uriart 14.12.2010 22:51

Interesting icon
 
Вложений: 5
Offered for sale by this icon.

Interesting story.
Do not tell me the name?

See offer.

Wood, oil - 83.5 cm x 72.5 cm

Wladzislaw 15.12.2010 01:01

I think that this is not an icon, a religious painting that once decorated the church.

SAH 15.12.2010 01:44

Icon of Archangel Michael is called, the story unfolded with the trinity of God's mother and John the Baptist, the second half (middle) 19-century story.
Orthodox think (sure).

antic-imperia 20.12.2010 16:52

Icon of interest for purchase.
Please send good pictures to my mail.

тандем 20.12.2010 17:34

craquelure artificial.

uriart 20.12.2010 18:36

tandem, what else is there artificial you saw?

тандем 20.12.2010 19:14

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Сообщение от uriart; 1444531"
tandem, what else artificially there you saw?

You keep the painting in his hands and can judge tochnee.Togda Explain why-formed so uniformly large craquelure thin paint layer on doske.Videl similar painting in Kiev at the rally. All Saw it came to the unanimous opinion - religious lithograph pasted on a board and covered with a special krakelyurnym varnish.
Make icons and religious paintings lithographs way sticking to the board began a long time. Today, the way he lives and improved ....

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Author: Catherine BOGDANOVA


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  The art of iconography - a complex and ancient art. But Russia is experiencing a renaissance of Orthodoxy, built and restored many temples. Return for a century what many centuries - is not easy. With regard to this and a practical aspect, as an internal arrangement of churches, the creation and restoration of the iconostasis. If we approach the traditional iconography, the arrangement of a church could take years. But the Orthodox community is growing faster than the icon-painting workshops. What to do? Output from similar situations found Saratov company Luxor Consulting. It turned out that the congregation can help digital technology.


  But it's not just a computer and special programs in conjunction with the experience of professionals in the field layout and graphic design. And then on plain paper are produced by the light of these masterpieces of printing - exact copies of paintings of Orthodox icons. These faces, created using the technology of the new century, decorated iconostasis today many churches of the city and region. Among them the church of St. Archangel Michael in the village Mikhajlovka Saratov region, the Temple of Our Lady of Kazan in Piterke and a temporary church in the name of the Holy Apostles Peter and Paul in the Leninsky district of Saratov. Just finished work on the iconostasis of the Holy Trinity church of the convent of Pugachev. But man, inexperienced in the art history to guess that before it is not picturesque, and lithographic icon next to impossible. Covered with a special lacquer prints, at first glance, indistinguishable from the originals. Even goes so far curiosities: one of the temples of their own lithography did not recognize their creators - so naturally they looked for a place to temporarily missing original.

Toinen 20.12.2010 19:33

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Сообщение от tandem (Сообщение 1444591)
lithography religious pasted on a board and covered with a special krakelyurnym varnish.

About how!
How can you make such categorical conclusions without holding the object in their hands?
For a short period of correspondence dating from the uriart I had the impression that he is able to distinguish a lithograph from the painting!

uriart 20.12.2010 19:50

Say what you want, all I care.

Normal icon and normal craquelure.

Just a thick layer of varnish.
From time to time and matter.

The paint layer is not touched.

Pecheneg 20.12.2010 21:47

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Сообщение от tandem (Сообщение 1444471)
craquelure artificial.

Dear tandem not seeing, not holding an icon can not make such categorical conclusions ... I also craquelure not like it, but there I saw a small scree paint layer, which is not in favor of artificiality and lithographs ... If I saw it live, then one could conclude that it is.

uriart 20.12.2010 22:35

Pecheneg, all you saw correctly.
A craquelure understand why this.
After all the icons in the churches were restored, that is dissected with varnish or linseed oil.
From year to year and grew a layer of lacquer.
While the church was, and there was no Crazing. Yet there was a regime, no matter how how.
And as the church began to tear down the people in their homes and assorted icons.
In the 50 - or 60-ies of men hid in the attic so the icons in the sheds.
It was impossible to say that the believer.
Branded would be a shame to work.
And as the house kept, nobody knows.
That craquelure appeared.

тандем 20.12.2010 22:39

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 1444671)
Just a thick layer of varnish. On time and went.

 Dried linseed oil in its structure is very flexible. Gives cracks only in locations exposed to open flame (the trace of the lamps)


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Сообщение от Pecheneg; 1444871"
tandem without seeing, without holding an icon can not make such categorical conclusions ... I also craquelure not like it, but there I saw a small scree paint layer, which is not in favor of artificiality and lithographs .. . If I saw it live, then one could conclude that it is.

What you call "small talus layer of ink," more akin to mechanical damage (scratches).
About Crazing - that samples of natural and iskusstvennogo.Sravnite.

Pecheneg 21.12.2010 01:21

[QUOTE=tandem; 1444951"]What you call "small talus layer of ink," more akin to mechanical damage (scratches).[/QUOTE

Well ... maybe everyone sees what he wants uvidet.Ne in their hands .. I repeat ...
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Сообщение от tandem (Сообщение 1444951)
cured linseed oil in its structure is very flexible. Gives cracks only in locations exposed to open flame (the trace of the lamps)

At the place where the lamp is usually obtained burned, burned down to the wood base. But such huge cracelures I met when an icon of "special restoration" covers the nitrocellulose lacquer, but he then tore up the paint layer, to the point that tore and gesso ..

SAH 21.12.2010 01:22

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Сообщение от "tandem (Сообщение 1444591)
You keep the painting in his hands and can judge more accurately.

How it difficult for me to imagine that

uriart, sells and collects art is good ....
many years :) can not figure out where the painting and where the litho.

Max 21.12.2010 04:35

Craquelure on the tree and the canvas is often not odinakov.Ot humidity and temperature of the tree itself is walking differently, depending on the annual sloev.Po photo to make any rash, I think.: :D


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