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Seriy 08.12.2010 19:45

The Pushkin Museum is - the bare walls!
 
Wrote in his subject, but because among the members of the forum is a museum, decided to allocate separately, on the painful topic for me.

Went today to the Pushkin. Alas, again half of Pushkin on tour until September 2011! I had forgotten when I saw all of Picasso on the spot, no girls on the ball, nor the old man and a boy. There is not much of Kandinsky, Paul Gauguin, "You're jealous," Rouault not. Because of cents, which they throw on the porch some Japanese yarn, ready to fly Pushkin with guts to take out. And as if something someone gives in return. No one and nothing!
Picasso exhibition was off-exchange, and gift Turner gift.
Then when Picasso from the frequent traffic will remain horns and legs, that would be a new purchase?

"Avignon girls" never leave New York! Forbidden! That's it.
And we?

Everything on sale!

Posted in Blog of the museum, is unlikely to be accommodated there, at all of them benevolently.
And I can not keep quiet - that has got nothing, expropriated, half were given the Bolsheviks, now museum workers dealt with the rest. And that depends, Cezanne pocherkanny-what happened? Kandinsky's most-led outweigh from place to place in the museum smell of cooking, borscht ...
In short, a nightmare.

Fed 08.12.2010 19:52

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in the museum smell of cooking, borscht ...

"I am delighted with Russian food, particularly in the restaurant" Pushkin ". Borsch - just super."
Rob Schneider.


And I kept thinking, where it is.
Now I'll know.

Vlasta 08.12.2010 20:14

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In short, a nightmare.

Perhaps it is your perception - "a nightmare". I am in the Pushkin often. Very often, because I love this place, and I live close by. And never (!), Never smell of borscht was not raised in the halls of the museum. For eating there are specially designated areas, so no need to exaggerate. And the fact that the exposure changes, so this is understandable - to show the world's masterpieces of the province is also necessary. Not every resident of the Kamchatka travels to Moscow to look at Western European art. And the exhibition at the Pushkin pass quite regularly. Not every week of the new opening.

Seriy 08.12.2010 20:31

You go, probably in the main building. Impressionists and post-are in a small building, there is a common staircase from the kitchen to the very top floor and the smell of cooking is almost always the case. The very smell does not bother me, I care about what happens to the paintings in such conditions.
If you happen often, so visit today and take a look as jarred cardboard Kandinsky.

Show you can, but should be limited and the frequency of impressions and what can and can not. Can not be taken out of the museum's never "Are you jealous?" Gauguin, nor "The Girl on the ball." Unjustifiable risk nothing. Compensate for their loss is impossible.
As there are prohibitions on the masterpieces of the first magnitude in other museums, you can not remove "Mona Lisa", or "Avignon girls."
That is why not bring the guys to the old man and the boy-old man with a guitar in Chicago? And because the FIG you! - Meets Chicago.
The old man and the boy did not go to Kamchatka and Japan.
And, of course, yes, it's my perception, I'm not blind. Have you seen the condition of some of Picasso in Paris? In the poor-and cracked and the paint peel off. Thank God that the girl wrote a thin layer, so that is still alive, but that does not mean that you can pull it back and forth, and in the tail and mane ...

Vlasta 08.12.2010 20:58

I realized that you're talking about building on Volkhonka 14. On Thursday'll come necessarily see what's such a "nightmare." Kamchatka I brought as an example, saying that it is necessary to introduce the art of others, without access to the world's masterpieces. I do not understand why you think that sharing works of art is not good? After all, remember how much joy brought Picasso exhibition? But there is the collection of the Pushkin was what is called a one-two and obchelsya ... Went old man with a boy in Japan - and it's great. Let the Japanese people to see it and rejoice, too, as you and I rejoice that comes to us. Why do you say about them as about the potential loss?

Seriy 08.12.2010 21:05

The fact of the matter is that in return we get nothing. Picasso exhibition - is not an exchange, a gift from France in the year of France in Russia.
In my memory I do not remember a single painting by Picasso in return for a share of our export supershedevrov. And the fact that they are such, no doubt.
Or Guernica brought and I missed? Or a tragedy from Washington?
Any finding out the museum is the potential loss and risk.
You know, sc paintings by Van Gogh burned by fire? In particular, some of the sunflowers.

Fed 08.12.2010 21:08

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provinces to show the world's masterpieces, too, need

Did not know that Pushkin Museum carries the province world masterpieces. And that - carries?

"At the Pushkin Museum brought a record number of paintings by Picasso-240 Masterpieces of Russian judges saw the beautiful: paintings, photographs and sculpture."
"60 Masterpieces from Raphael to Goya." From the Budapest Museum.

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Or Guernica brought, and I've missed?

Henrik - politics. "The group of restorers who examined the famous painting by Pablo Picasso's" Guernica ", which is stored at Madrid's National Center of Art Reina Sofia, recognized the state of the paintings" serious but stable "and urged not to remove it outside the museum.

On how to carry the huge (349 to 776 cm) canvas in Guernica, the Basque town bombed-out Italian and German aircraft in 1937, insists the government of the autonomous community of Basque Country. In Madrid, this idea resisted because of fears for the safety of the picture, but the Basques suspected that the persistence of museum staff is hidden political motives. "

About Henrik do not worry, I like-corrida.

Vlasta 08.12.2010 21:28

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Did not know that Pushkin Museum carries in the province of the world's masterpieces.
And that - carries?

No, of course, lied.
Confused with the Hermitage.
Was visiting in Siberia a few years ago, went to the exhibition from the Hermitage collection.
You are right, the Pushkin in the province carries no :)

Seriy 08.12.2010 21:30

Fed, this general policy, no one supershedevry will not export.
Of course, Pushkin's not on the Kamchatka Peninsula Vologda carries Picasso, and on commercial exhibitions abroad - for the money.


By the way, Botero became fashionable, and saw his statue in Pushkin, I do not know how long she was there, liked it.

Vlasta 08.12.2010 21:30

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Any presence outside the museum is the potential loss and risk.

Seriy, why?
The risk agrees.
But the loss of ...
Why so gloomy?

Seriy 08.12.2010 21:45

"News of the Pushkin Museum" - the official blog of the museum-published my replica-

http://community.livejournal.com/tvo...147231#t147231

Vlasta 08.12.2010 21:50

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published my replica

Well, as you said, is unlikely to be accommodated.

I-V 09.12.2010 07:17

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Last seen today at the Pushkin. Alas, again half of Pushkin on tour until September 2011! I had forgotten when I saw all of Picasso on the spot, no girls on the ball, nor the old man and a boy. There is not much of Kandinsky, Paul Gauguin, "You're jealous," Rouault not.

Similar to the Tretyakov Gallery (Lavroushinsky) - reached the Borisov-Musatov, and bam! - The doors are closed - a change of exposure! A walking-it is in those rooms, watch Chagall, Saryan, Goncharova and others. Well, in Pushkin, of course, as always: he was a child, and in what time could not pass through the halls of Michelangelo and the Renaissance in the Middle Ages, a third of the second floor is blocked. Annoying awful! The main thing is possible at all clear why such a regular outrage? I wonder if having come to the cinema on the 2-hour movie, you're on the 61 th minute proved to be in the room with the lights on? As in the joke::
 
"instead of" Swan Lake "today is a train to Ryazan. Tickets are valid".


With museums, something like that happens. Maybe it's time yet to begin to warn of the closed rooms and taken away by the exhibition of paintings in advance? Even small ads to hang? Do match. discount tickets? A feeling that the visitors are treated like a submissive lamb that's just when needed you can drive away the herd and send off the field with juicy grass far away.

Кирилл Сызранский 09.12.2010 13:45

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with museums that something like this happens. Maybe it's time yet to begin to warn of the closed rooms and taken away by the exhibition of paintings in advance?

Once on the Crimean failed - went down to adminstratoru and explained everything: that I came from Samara (show ticket, by the way, and jabbed his finger at his price :)) to the main National Gallery view national wealth, and stumbled on a bench in the aisle of the room 25 (where the bread Yablonska and the two leaders after the rain) with the announcement that the halls are closed, and the rest, etc. relying text.
I singled out a man and I'm with this lady-supervisor looked over the art of the 50-ies of our time. And I really had to work something out to see the exhibition. Half-year while those halls were closed and there is a 38-meter final. In both, from 26 th to 38 was not available.

Vlasta 11.12.2010 18:24

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Today was in the Pushkin. Agreed with my own eyes to look at the cardboard Kandinsky. Yes, indeed, that is what it is. Can see with my own eyes. But "The Girl on the ball" on the spot. And about the "old man with a boy" art, held in Conference Picasso lessons, telling students that really drove the old man and a part of other works in Japan. But it seemed strange to another point. That is the work of Kandinsky, entitled "Structure of the corners (at least, the work's title is next to this pattern). Pointed out that this "oil on canvas." But it is clearly seen that the work on the cardboard. We are with the overseer of the hall has long been considered it from different angles, like a finger scrape (vandalism, I understand), but not decided, and still came to the unequivocal conclusion that it does not primed canvas, but an ordinary cardboard. I began to lament, as they say, so they write horrible ... At that the woman said: "Yes okay, we have so often (!) Happens, wrong." I'm certainly not an expert, and can also be wrong, but in any case, that work on the cardboard, I'm sure now the superintendent of the hall. Human Seriy - nightmare!


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