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Михаил Павлович 04.09.2009 17:02

Dear Vladimir, what I have called you is ironic attitude? A few books? more than a hundred articles? number of scientific research? With many personalities whose names you first heard on this forum (for example, N. Khardzhiev), I was well acquainted, and was in a creative correspondence. I admit. that you are in my profession have reached a higher level. I just wanted to answer your questions, they you have not turned out. And the conversation is over. I guess I could read your posts to give you any response, but I consider unethical.
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Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir (Сообщение 586396)
All is forgotten, probably arose from an occasion for skirmishes. Look at positions 47 and 48 - from there it all started. I do not like to get personal - uncultured, gentlemen. Laugh at the poor construction worker, virtually the entire crowd to kick his legs ....
    Some private traders forum joyfully ran from subject to subject, as soon as there is an opportunity to attack a group of my person. Flatter, flatter, gentlemen! If I write something on the case, for example, "2 x 2 = 4" as soon as there is the chorus wishing to correct. I already knew that from some of the opponents never not get the recognition, which would be useful and correct information and write. Nothing, not scary. Do not stammer.

    But it is good to know the significance of his guests - a group of adults begins in the night to write. And once more to write, look for the appropriate citations to the network, move my message to other topics. Solid grandfather of Izralya for me immediately registered on the forum (September 4, 2009 ).... Nice, thank you, thank you very much! Amuse me pride. ;)

But I am not proud, I know a real good price - as the lower and upper limit of its. I therefore propose to complete the virtual stoning and return to a discussion of the topic. Believe me, there too I know much more than art: ten years of computer training and advertising impact.


Черномашенцев Владимир 04.09.2009 17:27

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Сообщение от Mikhail P. (Сообщение 586876)
Dear Vladimir, what I called you is ironic attitude?

I offer you my apologies, I overdo it.

The fact that 95 per cent, I was sure that you do not Tubli. Anonymous permissiveness of the Internet allows anyone to act not on their own behalf. Once difficult to imagine that a serious art urgently in the night rush registirovatsya on the forum to answer one single message, in which there was absolutely no crime or contempt for your book.

But if we assume that you really Tubli, even with the probability of a few percent, then I can not apologize. It is better to apologize to the virtual creature, than to hurt this person.



PS

Level fights on the forum often reminds me of Bulgakov's "Theatrical Novel" or movie Ryazanov "Garage".

Кирилл Сызранский 04.09.2009 18:31

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Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir (Сообщение 586946)
Oh hurt you quickly appeared on the site!

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Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir (Сообщение 586946)
I'll try to figure out what you exactly MP Tubli, on whose behalf you write,

Listen, one must know when to stop, that, if you here from the forum made a farce, do not you ashamed of yourself, then?
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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 586236)
By the way, if forumcanam interested, you can with the permission of the author is an application with photographs of fake stamps to lay out in the relevant subject.

Here laid.
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...p;postcount=39

Михаил Павлович 04.09.2009 19:52

Chernomashentsev Vladimir, Dear Vladimir, all right, not the case, that would beat the dishes. Simply modern search engines allow even this hoary user, as I have (alas - age), quickly go through the term and, especially, the name on the appropriate pages ... the more that I drop in here as a reader, by whom and want to stay. Good luck in the fight against hazing! Would be a "grandfather" - do not hurt small.

Черномашенцев Владимир 05.09.2009 13:51

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Сообщение от Ninni (Сообщение 579986)
I'll take a picture of the day 2 - do not want to be even an indirect cause of the deterioration of its "career" - that life will put everything on its places.


Trying to go back to basics theme, posted a picture Nesterova NN "The swing", 150x200 um, 1980, the beginning (?) Years

What will Ninni!

Ninni 05.09.2009 14:38

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Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir (Сообщение 588196)
Trying to go back to basics theme, posted a picture Nesterova NN "The swing", 150x200 um, 1980, the beginning (?) Years

What will Ninni?!

   Vladimir, I say that with great respect by Natalia Nesterova and her beautiful creation.

  I was surprised by your question because Ben swings Hashanah and N. Nesterova - these things are quite different in contrast to the earlier pictures I submitted.

Черномашенцев Владимир 05.09.2009 14:57

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Сообщение от Ninni (Сообщение 588306)
I was surprised by your question because Ben swings Hashanah and N. Nesterova - these things are quite different in contrast to the earlier pictures I submitted.

You think different. But someone might pay attention only to the swing. This is especially important in "Conceptual", where the idea is more important than acute sense. In painting, the nuances, the happiness, much more. Perhaps because of this ploskoty I do not like kontseptulnoe art.

Remember that some viewers did not recognize plagiarism in your couple (except for the recurrence of a person that may be caused by a tribute to the idol, picturesque quote).

Ninni 05.09.2009 18:31

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Originally Posted by Chernomashentsev Vladimir
You think different. But someone might pay attention only to the swing. This is especially important in "Conceptual", where the idea is more important than acute sense. In painting, the nuances, the happiness, much more. Perhaps because of this ploskoty I do not like kontseptulnoe art.
Remember that some viewers did not recognize plagiarism in your couple (except for the recurrence of a person that may be caused by a tribute to the idol, picturesque quote).
You know, Vladimir, is not important whether that "someone" thinks and most importantly - "who".
Imagine if the chef visitor will prove that eggplant and badridzhan - different vegetables .... What is left to cook? Well, he will explain it once, but seeing that the words do not bring any results, the next time will announce its dish like this "Blue Noses in tomato sauce" or something like that ...

This I mean that in the I have quoted the example of - Borrowing=plagiarism. If anyone has any desire to see in the opposite or something "romantic" - I do not dare to object. assumptions and variations may be many but actually it will not change.

I expected that I have this example will be a stimulus for discussion of the reasons distrust of the internet - artists I do not trust the internet or collectors and may they both ..... What benefits has the internet and what shortcomings ....??? I believe that this is quite interesting and useful topic.
  The Internet has become an integral part of our lives and much of it already defines. He can not seriously impact on the arts in general. Before the Internet artists do not have such a powerful informative space and developed more or less self-directed and any clash with the novelty gave rise to new pursuits and aspirations.

  Internet has simplified and complicated at the same time. Information Sea .. (in comparison) and well-informed artists actually "stand still" (figuratively speaking) ... Select than the artist in this sea of creativity? How to make to attract attention? concept ... shocking ...? be ... not all of it is fun but all the same ...
As to conceptual art - agreed that the do not like but this does not mean - do not accept. This art is a fact because art is changing and this is correct - we like it or not. The new generation sees it already on another. It exists and is developing and where will be interesting.

  I'm sorry that so many words.


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