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Маруся 23.06.2013 18:39

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Сообщение от Eriksson; 2646231"
Pavel, did you have a second nickname Marussia ?

Surprisingly, in life met such a relationship ...
Well, I ring the artist " can offend everyone ," then I 'll try to answer :

I think we need to read? Or just look at pictures ?
For that year, waiting for the press conference ... But the concern is Parton and Bazetu and Valyaeva - well, as it will ...

Pavel 23.06.2013 19:05

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Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 2646231)
Pavel, unless you have a second nickname Marussia?

Did not want to offend anyone . You know all that is done in the forefront of the books I read in Kukarkin " bourgeois mass culture " and Micah Lifshitz, "Art and the Modern World ." All that is done now is the interpretation to some extent. The art has meaning only original art . I allude to the fact that the recent works on the subject are of no value , but rather the value of commercial, for circulation .

Allena 25.06.2013 11:27

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A gang of Tom Sawyer

Tatiana Volkova 16.06.2013
According to virtually all the world's news agencies in Germany arrested members of an international group that engaged in counterfeiting products of Russian avant-garde artists. According to "News", "authorities were looking for them a long time ago in a raid to capture two thugs involved more than 100 police officers. It is reported that the Russians were part of a gang. "
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«According to authorities, the criminal group was operating around the world since 2005. The fraudsters managed to skillfully forge the work of Wassily Kandinsky, Kasimir Malevich, Mikhail Larionov and other Russian avant-garde. "
"In search of the bandits guards combed dozens of apartments in Bavaria, Hesse, Hamburg, Baden-Württemberg and Rhineland-Palatinate. As a result, in the hands of the authorities were two criminals, one of whom is 67 years old and the other - 41. Their names and nationalities were not disclosed. "
As the President of the Federal Police Joerg Circus, "the investigation could seriously undermine the international scene figures fakes."
The guards shook not only apartments, but antique shops, private art galleries, and not only in Germany, but in Spain, Switzerland, Israel and Russia. Personal statement of Mr. Circus shows that Germans are confident in the successful resolution of the case.
When the excitement wears off international (claimed composition, perhaps drawn to the fraud, but not for banditry), which will remain in the bottom line?
To begin with (think of it, the binomial theorem) will be called the main characters of the event. The one who supposedly 67 years - I think he really still 76 - Israeli of Libyan descent Yitzhak Zarug. "Bandit" '41 years old - a German citizen, a native of Tunisia Moez Ben Hazaz.
The headquarters of the Federal Police of Germany is located in the state of Hesse in Wiesbaden. There, on the corner of fashionable Taunusstraße, a minute's walk from the main pedestrian area of ​​the town, until 2010 housed the elegant art gallery SNZ, where these "bandits" offered all the representatives of the Russian avant-garde, and not only the avant-garde, and many dozens, if not hundreds, names of famous artists.
It is amazing that a half-century-old graduate of the Israeli vocational specialty metal cutting Zarugu and North African market trader Ben Hazazu able to remember and correctly pronounce almost as many Russian families.
Frankly, I do not just zahazhivala the gallery, and never ceased to wonder where the firewood, and even in such numbers. Curiosity brought me to the myriad sources of foreign wealth: the backrooms of our museums. Fakes - yes, they were, as always, generously diluted Supplied exhibits, but what a fake! Fake these originate from a joint project of Anastas Mikoyan Emmanuilovich with Igor Grabar, although avant-garde, of course began to make the wrong legendary times, but much later.
Prices were paid middlemen, including arrest in the case, not as a copy of, but as for the real work of famous artists. Discounts provided quite reasonable given the lack of work in the catalogs raisonné and the lack of provenance.
Zaruga, Ben Hazaza and other international media has already declared (without mentioning their names) artists - authors fakes. I can vouch that the brush in their hands they held except for painting the fence. Semi-literate Ben Hazaza summed vanity: he even published a book about the Russian vanguard of the German language, which somehow mastered. German investigators are now searching the day the fire workshops where made fake. Politeness requires wish them every success in this hopeless case.
Source: http://forum-msk.org/material/kompromat/9941201.html

Eriksson 25.06.2013 11:53

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Сообщение от Maroussia (Сообщение 2647401)
I think we need to read?
Or just look at pictures?

For that year, waiting for the press conference ...


Well, of course.
"Do not read, but I condemn."
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Кирилл Сызранский 25.06.2013 12:51

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Сообщение от Allena; 2648951 "

This is something I do not understand:
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Frankly, I do not just zahazhivala the gallery, and never ceased to wonder where the firewood , and even in such numbers. Curiosity brought me to the myriad sources of foreign wealth: the backrooms of our museums . Fakes - yes, they were, as always , generously diluted Supplied exhibits , but what a fake ! Fake these originate from a joint project of Anastas Mikoyan Emmanuilovich with Igor Grabar , although avant-garde, of course began to make the wrong legendary times , but much later .

Prices were paid middlemen , including arrest in the case, not as a copy of , but as for the real work of famous artists. Discounts provided quite reasonable given the lack of work in the catalogs raisonné and the lack of provenance .

Which Anastas what Igor Emmanuilovich ?
Ocherezhnoy journalist of nonsense?

Allena 25.06.2013 13:28

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky; 2649061"
What Anastas what Igor Emmanuilovich?
Another journalistic nonsense?

I do not know. Extremely surprised, because nothing like this has ever heard of. And started looking at random (in time trouble) found only at the mention of a strange Huberman.
http://litrus.net/book/read/136267?p=40

Fiction, but it's not invent. Although I have a feeling that everything is upside down. Maybe someone from the audience know that there's actually happening?

At the time, I had vaguely heard about the appearance of two dozen paintings by Russian avant-garde (in the opinion of knowledgeable people - lime) out of some closed Kremlin spetskhran. Then it never occurred interested in the details (avant-garde, and even a fake, from the closed store - a delusion!), And now I thought: maybe the links of one chain?

By the way, the book Huberman's about it N.A.Bruni: instead of this, as I initially thought,

khmelev 25.06.2013 14:53

refers to the contamination of the two plots.
The first is that Mikoyan was related to sales of museum items to the West , as the People's Commissar of Foreign Trade.
It is well-known pieces .
Grabar's name pops up in connection with research collections Hannah conducted Teteryatnikova . According to him , almost all meeting Hannah consisted of copies of icons from the Tretyakov Gallery, manufactured in the CLD , which was at that time (when the copies were made ) led Grabar .
 It discussed forgeries Russian avant-garde , these stories have no relationship.

Кирилл Сызранский 25.06.2013 15:31

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Сообщение от khmelev (Сообщение 2649361)
refers to the contamination of the two plots.

Well, yes, in Apples and uncle in Kiev (c).
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Allena 25.06.2013 15:39

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Сообщение от khmelev; 2649361 "
refers to the contamination of the two stories

Thank you , khmelev! I'd like to believe that this is so . And who is this Tatyana Volkova , who is so aware of the issue and doing so confident statements about the outlandish stories about how things are well-known ? Does anyone know anything about it ?

Кирилл Сызранский 17.02.2014 13:30

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Сообщение от khmelev; 2637381"
And the author of the introductory article do not know ?

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Сообщение от acetate ; 3003571 "
catalog released this puny . Bought the remaining two ,
presented one well-known collector than led him to delight -
requested to redeem everything in the museum , but alas too late. Second where it remained ,
experts mentioned in this book - and Jafarova Pospelov .

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