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Магнолия 29.04.2012 20:09

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Сообщение от Kirill Syzran ; 2087431"
" Chelo " - that person is , the front part of the head , so just call and an arched opening in front of the Russian stove .

Everyone knows what he wants . But the petition is called insert ( semantic connection to recharge ), and not part of the arch , which is in many designs. This is the meaning introduced the " people " in the concept of "bee ." Your objection is unfounded.

Кирилл Сызранский 29.04.2012 20:17

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Сообщение от Magnolia; 2087811 '
Your objection is unfounded.

Dahl's Dictionary:
human Wed forehead, the head, from the crown to the brow. Steep, sheer man is given only to man, animals gently sloping foreheads, zavalistoe. Beating brow, bow, bow to give, thank you.|| - About anything, ask to whom to complain. Brow beat or strike than to bring a gift. Writing a petition, chickens. kiss her hand. Give Uncle brow! Brow cool! Yes brow in hand! Hello. Who did, and we all across the brow. Four brow, and the fifth God helps! Qom brow! - Sit down. Almost there? - Oh. Brow beat on bread but on the salt. I beat my forehead, but the salt, but the third love (the word host guests). Your good, but you also petition. Chelo itching - brow beat. I'll humbly, and only you know what. Bay on the forehead Thule, look at Moscow.|| head, the head of something, the beginning or top, in front. brow of the mountain. Misty human Kazbek. Man of the river, the source, the beginning. Man army, the head, in front, face. Be on the brow of the embassy, ​​old. headed. Fight, fight brow, old. face to face melee combat.|| Chelo, orl.-Mtsensk. prichelok, ochelok, embroidered Kichko.|| Outside the Russian stove opening, the mouth, as smelters, where the fuel is placed in Dutch oven furnace, sometimes called Foursquare petition before the hearth opening and the second semi-circular, in the very furnace mouth. man's head with a stove, but the brain does nothing. What's what, and to the brow barrier (ie, the furnace).|| Chelo grain piles, ochele, ochelok, the best weighty grain, which lies close at Wake, and Rump, ohobote, ozadki are on. Collect the seeds man.|| Chelo, brisket beer, Vlad. best, the first sink, top. Chelo (ochele) is not afraid of the wind, and uhvoste (Ukhobotov) attributes. Human, chelny to otnosyasch brow. Human bread grain. Human, chelnaya bone, frontal. Human Ore, CPM. solid. furnace soot. Bangs, Cheltsov, brisket, diminish. in diff. means.|| Brisket, butcher. curl, sprout, the upper portion of beef brisket.|| Cheltsov, asters. zherdyanye floats. Chelyshev, chelyshek pm Vlad. a round fungus, young and strong mushroom, Vlad. orange-cap boletus, with a red puffy hat;|| Chelyshev and chelyh, sedomy fungus growing on decaying birch;|| stunted boy. Well Bang. old. banner, badge, banner, web banner, badge, probably brush bunchug on the banner.|| Tver. kokoshnik before. Potyasha styagovnika our (chopped) and fringe styagovuyu storgosha with flags, the chronicle.|| Bang, the horse, forelock, mane Cosma head between the ears, forehead, wrongly confused with the withers. Well Chelitsa. ACCs. gristly brisket in the meat, brisket. Chelesnik m resins. furnace man. Chelnik, head-dress. Chelobok m penalty. absent nod, nod sent. Chelomkat coma chickens. thief. correspondence bow, privechat; chelomkatsya with whom, hello, bow, embrace, kiss. Well, pochelomkaemsya! Petitions, petitions, petition f. petition Wed bow: request; complaint. Submit the petition to the neighbor. Come to you with a great petition. No red-petition warehouse folding decree.|| Petition, Simba. conspiracy or a wedding engagement, with prostrations. Pleas day appointed for receiving requests. Chelobitnichat, walk and bow, petition, request, submit a request to compete, sue, sutyazhit. Petitioner, chelobitchitsa, the petitioner, the plaintiff, petitioners, chelobitnitsyn that they personally; chelobitchichy, chelobitnichy, chelobitnichesky, they otnosyasch. On the elder does not petitioner, and not from the world away. Chelit heap, butcher (share) on the forehead and ozadok or rump.

Магнолия 29.04.2012 20:26

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Сообщение от zarajara; 2087571"
When I speak of the intellectuals , I mean the same guy who makes a living mental labor , rather than a good and decent steelworker . I think most of it and understand it. Assume that the unemployed and the poor necessarily superior to the moral and personal qualities normally earn an intellectual, a kind of " snobbery in reverse."
And in the description of the image of the intellectual and an intellectual in an average 30%of respondents used the adjectives : kind, honest , responsible, "his /her all the love and respect ." It is normal to describe a set of intellectual, is not it ?

I ask you , mind you ! This topic has long been circling around the sharp distinction of intellectuals and intellectuals. Go back to previous pages or read the essay " Intel ..." in my diary . Then you will not be confused with intellectual intellectual.

zarajara 29.04.2012 20:35

If the words "common people" we mean that - not an aristocrat, I agree, though among the intellectuals in the Russian Empire was a lot of those who received a personal nobility. But in general, yes - do not know.
That dialogue came to where all these usually go: can there be intelligent not intellectual.
I believe that all the same - no. Or are we going to confuse the concepts and to equate the intellectual and moral man, while accepting that morality can be in any social stratum. However, when we are talking in a conversation about someone - an intellectual.
we usually mean by this is not only moral and not just "not physical labor," and very specifically - a man who lives at the expense of their knowledge and mental abilities. Because the trader - is not physical labor, but no one considers this intellectual profession.
His ancestry, but a majority of intellectuals know, do not want to talk about myself, but the vast majority (if not all) of my friends who did not know until the aristocrats forefathers, and many more.

I think that is just average the most productive layer of the city in a creative and intellectually. In fact, everything in science and art than we can be proud of and enjoy, it created the middle class - commoner, intellectuals, intellectuals, burghers - no matter how they call it.
By the aristocracy'm pretty cool. With their ability to such an insignificant return on output (I mean, of course, creativity.) They - the customers, it's not bad, but, IMHO, is not enough to admire them.

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Сообщение от Magnolia (Сообщение 2087851)
Please, note! This topic has long been circling around the sharp distinction of intellectuals and intellectuals. Go back to previous pages or read the essay "Intel ..." in my diary. Then you will not be confused with intellectual intellectual.

Magnolia, nobody and nothing is confusing the issue is discussed in another plane.

Магнолия 29.04.2012 20:37

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Сообщение от "artcol; 2087671 '
That is,
Intellectual, = intelligent.

Strongly disagree!
In intelligence and intelligence are different by nature.

Stressed this repeatedly!

zarajara 29.04.2012 21:00

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2087671)
Well, it does not matter . Throw the extra essence. For Czarist Russia is quite an assumption .

Educated commoner, earning a living is not physical (ie, mental ) labor. At the same time an intellectual , he might not be, and exist in a perfectly psevdointelektualnoy environment , as long as decency have been satisfied.

Intellectual - a purely Western notion, born on the same basis of Western rationalism and ethos " prometeevschiny " (though mb and we have precedents in Kievan Rus', perhaps) . They may be a commoner and an aristocrat .

That is, Intellectual ,=intelligent .
That is, immanent quality of personal and belonging to a certain layer.
.

And if so:
≥ intellectual intellectual,
+=An intellectual morality intellectual
Morality ≠ intellectual
 <! - ~ 1 ~ -> <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Магнолия 29.04.2012 21:01

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Сообщение от Kirill Syzran ; 2087821"
Dahl's Dictionary :

Now it is impossible to recover , whether from Cyril Methodius hidden alphabet matrix , or Slavic alphabet and misunderstood the essence of the alphabet . But for a long time lost meaning, marked with the letters . I have devoted many years of restoration of the matrix. A Vl.Dal - respected collector of " use", though called his explanatory dictionary .

zarajara 29.04.2012 21:06

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2087781)
And maybe free to do so.

If he does it for free - this is a missionary <! - ~ 1 ~ -> <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Магнолия 29.04.2012 21:10

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Сообщение от zarajara (Сообщение 2087921)
And if so:

Intellectual = and> intellectual,

+ = An intellectual morality intellectual

Morality ≠ intellectual

Since almost agree.
But it is too sparingly for the understanding of the majority.

artcol 29.04.2012 21:10

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Сообщение от Magnolia (Сообщение 2087881)
Strongly agree!
In intelligence and intelligence are different by nature.

Stressed this repeatedly!

With what did not agree to that?
There is a sign of inequality.

Магнолия 29.04.2012 21:19

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2087981)
There is a sign of inequality.

There will be a sign of inequality, if the fix.

zarajara 29.04.2012 21:22

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Сообщение от Magnolia (Сообщение 2087971)
This is almost in agreement.
But it is too sparingly for the understanding of the majority.

That's what the formula, I would have made it easier, but it does not work: the meaning is lost <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

artcol 29.04.2012 21:35

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Сообщение от zarajara (Сообщение 2087861)
If you say "common people" we mean that - not an aristocrat, I agree, though among the intellectuals in the Russian Empire was a lot of those who received a personal nobility. But in general, yes - do not know.
That dialogue came to where all these usually go: can there be intelligent not intellectual.
I believe that all the same - no. Or are we going to confuse the concepts and to equate the intellectual and moral man, while accepting that morality can be in any social stratum. However, when we are talking in a conversation about someone - an intellectual.
we usually mean by this is not only moral and not just "not physical labor," and very specifically - a man who lives at the expense of their knowledge and mental abilities. Because the trader - is not physical labor, but no one considers this intellectual profession.
His ancestry, but a majority of intellectuals know, do not want to talk about myself, but the vast majority (if not all) of my friends who did not know until the aristocrats forefathers, and many more.

I think that is just Intermediate layer of the city the most productive in a creative and intellectually. In fact, everything in science and art than we can be proud of and enjoy, it created the middle class - commoner, intellectuals, intellectuals, burghers - no matter how they call it.
By the aristocracy'm pretty cool. With their ability to is a negligible return on output (I mean, of course, creativity.) They - the customers, it is not bad, but IMHO, not enough to admire them.

So I say - there is no physical labor a) creativity, and 2) management. Everything Else - Communication <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Everything is text
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to: "Everything has been said. Fortunately, not everything think." Stanislaw Jerzy Lec
"If you get at least 5%of all you have read, I would not have taught you and me" G.Gurdzhiev

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Сообщение от Magnolia (Сообщение 2088001)
It is a sign of inequality, if the fix.

That's right everything. I do not know of another sign of inequality, but this one.

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Сообщение от zarajara (Сообщение 2087951)
If he does it for free - this is a missionary <! - ~ 1 ~ -> <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Well, why. Just do not receive payment in cash.

Pavel 30.04.2012 10:04

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Сообщение от zarajara (Сообщение 2087241)
This is not true , I recently conducted a survey among young people: asked to describe " intellectual " and " an intellectual ".
ALL ( 100 to 50 %of men and women), described the man ( male and female ), the middle class, elegantly dressed , well-groomed , a business having a family and high social status .
So the image of the " intellectual crummy " circulated in the Soviet Union is gone .
When my article to be published (in months ), I will place them in your diary will be able to see if I can take the time to send in a personal data .

Put on a suit and have an intellectual ? Well, another deodorant to spend. And I thought ! I thought that we should know a lot and something meaningful to do. It turns out the marriage of any intellectual notorious conman ? <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Магнолия 30.04.2012 10:36

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Сообщение от Pavel; 2088171"
I thought that we should know a lot and something meaningful to do

It should be in a special sense , then, is the knowledge of the non-existence. Its really want to tell people . First - the stage of Tongues , because this is not the name Novi . The image also has not picked up . Then - the poetry , because the rod - rhythm rhymes groping way . If the powerful aesthetics , the image portrayed . And all this for humanity, for the people. Since implementing social intellectual. More in the essays "Intel ..." in my diary .


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