I can only apologize for the fact that its finding made ​​in private conversations offline .
This is so, for that I beg your pardon : pardon me, please , Mr artcol.

Sometimes it happens - the conversation was , and where he was - did not even remember - whether in real life , whether on Skype , the themes of the forum there ...

I heard a very specific and heard not interpreted .
We are your neighbors live in similar neighboring cities and they are not even "dirty levans entrances ," and much worse. My " access " , however, more and worse than elsewhere ...
artcol, I wrote the truth, lying somewhere , something pereinachal ?

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Yes, this is not an injection.

Simply, many forum users are familiar and in real life and it is difficult in such situations to continue to play the role of forum, no, no, but it - in this role - the real life of its own making certain moments.

Apology accepted. Peace, friendship.

But. Forgive, I can, but that's understood - does (s)
What's the point of this was in your escapades? One can interpret my words as you can on the other. My laughter, the k-th I meet all these stories about the beauty of Europe - does not mean that the Russian mud and unsettled me a mile of comfort and cleanliness. I'm talking about something else. But on the other you do not really even aware of. Therefore traktuete as you can, you see. And you see - something that has already seen. All the new cuts you of an old comb.
So, no, it's your inner fantasies, and some I do not want to attribute your personal.

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Duc charm, including the Internet, and that can act, play, etc. To speak, debate, etc. To do this, the polarization of the same views, roles, etc. But this should not tolerate the fact that in real life on the Internet. They are different. And it's not, I thought, this is a phenomenon, objectively existing and inherent.

Ah, Constantine T. <! - ~ 9 ~ -> You are directed graduate <! - ~ 5 ~ -> damn talk about culture <! - ~ 7 ~ -> It's funny.

Posted 9 minutes
More - yes. A cleaner: again - what judge? For pictures from the Internet? Everything is changing rapidly in our world.

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Returning to the theme topic:
generally, if we talk about culture - the conversation comes to a standstill, and no practical benefit will not be. You can talk about principles, and then on the projects, but about the culture - is even columnists argue - it is their bread.

Columnists here seems not. Or is there?

Yes, I'm a fan of earth and simple truths - bad /good: white /black , yes /no , true /false ...
Perhaps , and probably all it is, that I some unknown secret knowledge about a "new " knowledge, which seems to have everything except for me at this forum. <! - ~ 7 ~ ->
Columnists are not the depths of people - again.
And second - and what is necessary to speak in this topic ?
About how to sell the pictures?

Cyril, I do not accidentally poked fun very deliberately about samizdat. And the phrase that your (Andropov), remember: "We do not know the society in which we live." So what knowledge is, and they are not secret. Then, they were not - and now there is. I mean access.

So what up with that? To speak and I can. From the slogan that scenario. In verse and prose. Blah blah blah <! - ~ 7 ~ -> But the practice criterion of truth, only the result (and hardcore, of course <! - 7 ~ ~ ->)

I just summed up (in the 10th page). No, selling pictures in this thread do not discuss. The application is made, you need to raise the general culture. With this you can not argue. But I have to say about this until there is nothing: it is a utopia. But the MB forum members have a different opinion. While listen.

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It's funny, I agree. Although the consensus here <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

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And one more remark on the part of the " cultural development ".

What is culture? This kind of soft- set of elements of the human environment, formatting it. Cyril did not agree with the cult has a comprehensive and reduces it to the realm of art . All right. Even so, it is even clearer.

Next, he actually says about the culture of consumption that it ( the culture ) is needed to educate people and to develop , ie thus create a market for consumption. Well, invested and created - and what the consumer will consume it ? Something is high, but the deceased , because there is no production , only the aftermarket . Or what?

But how can you "banter about self-publishing," I did cheat code a) in the mid-70s and b) they were published, for example:

This is part of the toko and only fiction.
Here's a little journalism and memoirs:

That's exactly what
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Cyril, it's too long and off topic , if all go . Feel the need to do - do all excavated, no, and there is no sense to paint something.

Stop!
Wait a minute .
What to do ?
You mean their " secret knowledge "?
So I set your source of wisdom , and so I know - Pelevin and the musical comedy " Chapiteau show ."
Movies that I was not looking, of course, but I read Pelevin's half- page and realized - had better re-read Leskov, Bunin , or in one hundred and first time on this than i @ @ ext wasting the time of his single life - I'm sorry, reading this level has long been outgrown and not an office manager , I ... <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
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You Learn Galkovskii I still advise to read. <! - ~ 5 ~ ->

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You go and do not have and did not overpower you so.
You gave an example of things from self-publishing , and then you podhihikivaete over him for his ignorance , apparently do not understand it - at least to know Pepper will not find yourself in an awkward situation when talking to other people.

And what Pelevin ? The leading contemporary Russian writer <! - ~ 5 ~ -> Although I was already hardly undertake to read.

But I'm not talking about razvlekalovo . You do not know what caused the birth of the phrase Andropov ?

The crisis in the USSR, what else .
Situation in which a substituted propaganda information, and "public opinion" profane power , he recognized obscene and harmful , and at some of the CPSU Central Committee plenum , and said from the rostrum of this phrase, which, incidentally , later repeated several times Gorbachev.

Yes it is.
With one important focus.
KGB-it had to have this information, and possessed.
So that by "we" he meant the KGB.
(IMHO, of course, Andropov himself to me about it is not reported).

This is from what my words, you did such a strange conclusion?
Not out of it?



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Hence:
Then all you are shifted to the metaphor of the entrance <! - ~ 9 ~ ->

No, I did not have .
The KGB was the same rotten sovdepovskoy sharashka like all the scoop in the then - Soviet Union.
Dull , grayish , half-educated (most of the studies were of Marxism -Leninism, dialectical materialism and Istpart ), inconspicuous little people - that they might know ?
External Service transported cases of money - by African tribal leaders ( leaders of national liberation movements ), and the heads of foreign communist parties , and the internal - watching the dissidents, collecting reports of secret agents (neighbors denounced their neighbors - who wore what , who is sleeping with whom , etc . etc.) so deadened the BBC, C da Voice of America.
That's their whole job.
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I see. The conversation ended , I propose to change the subject , or rather back to the original <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Eugene has posted an interesting news http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=155891

 As Irina Prokhorova , I do not know what she has ( I mean the audience ), for me it is the same as an empty drum, like his brother Prokhorov. With regard to the latter part of the message , but now I changed the word art and culture on the word substitute.