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Тютчев 09.07.2010 23:51

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Foreign experts have declared "Odessa Caravaggio 'copy

The painting "The Taking of Christ in custody, stolen in Odessa and was found in Berlin, was not painted by Caravaggio, and a copy of the work, preserved in the National Gallery of Ireland. This writes the German news agency DPA, with reference to the representative of the Dublin gallery. According to her, to use the term "forgery" it would be wrong: copying the work of master artist trained by his art, and not trying to deceive anyone.
With Irish art critic solidarity Caravaggio specialist from Berlin, Roberto Contini (Roberto Contini): in his view, the cost of finding work - from 200 to 500 thousand euros, not more. Earlier media reports appeared that the painting is worth millions and even tens of millions of dollars. "This is a good copy of but it does not compare with the brilliant originals are located in Dublin," - said Contini.

Note that if the picture is indeed a copy, it was made more than 200 years ago, since the end of XVIII century original, now based in Ireland, shall be forfeited. He was found only in 1990.

Earlier media reported that the Odessa "Christ" has long been considered a copy of Dublin, but in the 1950's art Xenia Malitskaya found that the picture is also painted by Caravaggio. Moreover, the date of creation of Odessa linen in the media was called in 1598 (Irish Caravaggio is dated 1602 year).

In early July, the director of the Odessa Museum of Western and Eastern Art Vladimir Ostrovsky said that the painting - a copy by hand of Caravaggio, "transfer" Looking from Odessa. " He noted that the picture they took him to major exhibitions in Germany, Italy and Spain. Prior to this, with her team of leading restorers of Ukraine, carried out their cleaning was approved by the museum committee. "Then this 'duck' or a dirty rumor that is supposedly a copy subsided," - said Ostrovsky.

The picture was kidnapped in 2008, and found at the end of June 2010. German police have detained three Ukrainians and one Russian, when they tried to sell the painting. In Ukraine, the same case detained 20 people suspected of aiding a gang of art thieves. Thieves caused serious damage to the picture, a poorly folded her canvas needed restoration.

http://www.lenta.ru/news/2010/07/09/caravaggio/

Тютчев 23.07.2010 02:03

The Director of the National Gallery called not to be ashamed of fakes

Nicholas Penny, director of the National Gallery in London, the UK's largest collection of Western European paintings, said he regretted that in his little museum of fakes: "I'm not worried for the reputation of the gallery, but it is important to know how smart the creators of fakes. He emphasized that no self-respecting collection of art should not be ashamed of forgery or get rid of them. This, he said, announcing a planned 2010 exhibit fabrications and incorrectly attributed the works: "Close Examination: Fakes, Mistakes and Discoveries" ("A careful study: fakes, mistakes and discoveries"), reports The Independent.

In the vaults of the National Gallery are very well-known imitation of Holbein's "Man and skull", the discovery of which in the middle of the XIX century caused such a scandal that the museum's director has resigned. Once regarded as a genuine work of Rembrandt's "Portrait of an old man in the chair" was a picture of the great circle of the Dutchman. In 1923, the gallery has bought a portrait of the Duke of Urbino Federico da Montefeltro (end of XV century), and only later discovered that the picture painted by modern paints and artificially aging technology. Moreover, the author did not try to fake that its image was like a Renaissance portraits of the Duke, and da Montefeltro written by him without the famous received in combat, dents on the nose.

http://lenta.ru/news/2009/07/22/forgery/


Close Examination: Fakes, Mistakes and Discoveries

Тютчев 25.07.2010 17:07

Traders fake pictures of Chagall and Picasso will sit in jail

ARTinvestment.RU - 22.07.2010, 06:55

A French court gave a two-year prison artist forges paintings Chagall and Picasso. 61-year-old Guy Ribs (Guy Ribes) was a member of a criminal gang, in 1997-2005 sells about a hundred fakes. Fraudsters deceived victims, posing as the heirs of collectors. Prices for work sometimes reached 300 thousand euros.

However falsifier been convicted 11 of his associates. Ribs and leader of the gang, 55-year-old art dealer Robalya Pascal (Pascal Robaglia), will have to pay damages in the amount of 900 thousand euros (1,16 million dollars).

Ribs told the court that he was good at drawing since childhood and began to write a fake in 1975 - "for fun", but also because of his own paintings were not sold. According to him, it was easier to make copies than trying to sell their work to those who do not understand. Criminal lawyer Antonin Levy (Antonin Levy) said that the court recognized the talent of his client and saw in him "an artist, not just forger."

The material prepared by Julia Maksimova, AI

http://artinvestment.ru/news/artnews...o_forgers.html

NATA NOVA 30.08.2010 15:43

The question arose: and whether there are examples of fraud (fraud), mostly (mostly) the motive would not be financially?

Тютчев 30.08.2010 15:45


NATA NOVA 30.08.2010 15:45

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Сообщение от Pluh (Сообщение 1251972)
Sorry, but you confuse the concept. Borrowing and fake. Is existing paintings executed by Picasso, but signed, such as Renoir, Dufy, or Gauguin, Rembrandt and Botticelli, and so on. Borrowing from the great artist, a very small part of the creative process. That if you want the knowledge and recognition of another master artist. And for that he bears full responsibility putting his signature on the product. Falsifiers, in most cases, still concerned about the commercial component and may in some cases increase their self-esteem - and so I can not. But this is deceptive triumph. After all, stolen everything - plot, technique, vision and chuvstvoa master and finally his name. He did not master, he is simply a coward, afraid to put their creativity to the audience, of course, if such he holds.
     

 

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Sorry, but you confuse the concept. Borrowing and fake.

DEAR Pluh,

I am interested in the difference vmotivah, not in terms


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Falsifiers, in most cases, still concerned about the commercial component and may in some cases increase their self-esteem - and I so I

Oh yes, and Picasso with Hearst concerned than were?

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This is not a fake.


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Well, yes that's right, your name must be manipulated ...
But nature still the same ... (face it no .. where one ends and another begins?)
Well, yes, and "money does not smell" and "winners are not judged" ...

Pluh 30.08.2010 16:30

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 1252072)
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Sorry, but you confuse the concept. Borrowing and fake.

DEAR Pluh,

I am interested in the difference vmotivah, not in terms


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Message from Pluh
Falsifiers, in most cases, still concerned about the commercial component and may in some cases increase their self-esteem - and I so I

Oh yes, and Picasso with Hearst concerned than were?

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This is not a fake.


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Well, yes that's right, your name must be manipulated ...
But nature still the same ... (face it no .. where one ends and another begins?)
Well, yes, and "money does not smell" and "winners are not judged "...

What were concerned about data wizard, we could see only their own. But since you and HC. Mr. Tiutchev, you answered. This is not fake and in my view is not plagiarism. So this was a creative challenge. Money, in this case, had there place to be.

NATA NOVA 30.08.2010 16:58

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Сообщение от Pluh (Сообщение 1252242)
So this was a creative challenge.

What is "such"?
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Сообщение от Pluh (Сообщение 1252242)
Money, in this case, had there place to be.
     

You specifically, please?

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Сообщение от Pluh (Сообщение 1252242)
But since you and HC. Mr. Tjutchev, you answered.

Tiutchev answer is clearly, I am also interested in the motives ...

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Сообщение от Pluh (Сообщение 1252242)
What were concerned about data masters, could be learned only in themselves. But you after all and HC. Mr. Tiutchev, you answered. This is not fake and in my view is not plagiarism. So this was a creative challenge. Money, in this case, had there place to be.
     

And why bother "to answer, not responding" (What was the motive, again? "For what?)

 The meaning of this in what?

Тютчев 30.08.2010 17:42

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 1252072)
I am interested in the difference vmotivah, not in terms

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Сообщение от Pluh (Сообщение 1251972)
Falsifiers, in most cases, still concerned about the commercial component and may in some cases increase their self-esteem - and so I can not. But this is deceptive triumph. After all, stolen everything - plot, technique, vision and chuvstvoa master and finally his name. He did not master, he is simply a coward, afraid to put their creativity to the viewer, of course, if such he holds.

The motives - this is important! In addition to the banal mercantile (this does not mean that the desire to earn money I see something lowland) of interest to create this "masterpiece" need something more ... Do not do without the additional (other) reasons. Maybe I'm wishful thinking, but very hard to believe that the great forgers hauling not only money, but were overwhelmed by passions, when creating their forgery. By the way the biography Meegerena can find facts, directly or indirectly supporting my hypothesis.

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Сообщение от Tjutchev (Сообщение 1101252)
In 1928 Van Meegeren and his friend found a picture in which they recognized the work of Van Khalsa. If it was established the authenticity of the portrait, he would bring them a fortune. Friends with great care and caution undertook the restoration of the painting. Then they showed her a well-known art critics and art historian Dr. Hofstede de Groot. He acknowledged the authenticity of the work and offered to find a buyer. Once the painting was sold, well-known critic Bredius declared that - fake. Van Vayngaarden was forced to return money to the buyer. He decided to play Brediusa. To whom he showed his own picture, married her to the creation of Rembrandt. The critic acknowledged the authenticity of the painting. Feasting Vayngaarden theatrical gesture cut fabric. Bredius, ridiculed and depressed, once again proved its incompetence in art history.

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Сообщение от Tjutchev (Сообщение 1101812)
According to legend, the painting was bought by the representatives of the old Dutch kind of living in Italy.
Several leading experts including the most authoritative expert on Vermeer Dr. Abraham Bredius (Dr. Abraham Bredius) unanimously attributed this picture early Vermeer.
Van Meegeren sold the painting through an intermediary - an old friend, a lawyer, Dr. James A. Bona (Dr. GA Boon) and a leading Dutch dealer's DA Hogendeyka (DA Hoogendijk) Dutch Rembrandt Society for the sum of 520,000 guilders (£ 1.8 million pounds) at the end of 1937. Then the painting was transferred to the museum of Rotterdam Boyman van Boyningena (Museum Boijmans Van Beuningen), which caused a real sensation.
The museum and today does not recognize the fact of forgery and considers this painting Vermeer (http://www.boijmans.nl/nl/)

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In Italy, the confiscated 500 fake paintings
Italian Carabinieri seized more than 500 fake paintings worth about seven million euros, according to La Repubblica. In particular, were seized counterfeits of Henri Matisse, Rene Magritte, Giorgio De Chirico, Renato Guttuso, Mario Siron, Umberto Boccioni, Mimmo Rotella, Franco Gentilini and others.
Paintings, drawings, graphics and chromolithograph were seized in the homes of owners who got them through Internet auctions, hoping to invest money. Experts noted the high quality fakes. The operation took place throughout Italy.

The investigation into the mass production of fakes started a half years ago, when the prosecutor's office in Rome, Siena and Palermo have jointly launched to track financial transactions for some popular sites, such as - on online auctions. As a result, 12 suspects have been identified in trading fake pictures, all of them arrested. The Court of Rome also decided to close the Internet auction that belonged to one of the detainees.

In addition to the fakes were seized and two ancient works: the image of St. John, formerly wrongly attributed to Guido Reni, as well as a stolen work Teofilo Patina, which sold for 600,000 euros.

http://www.lenta.ru/news/2010/08/25/counterfeit/


Figure Henri Matisse, exhibited for sale at online auction site. Screenshot from the site ebay.com:

Тютчев 30.08.2010 18:19

Вложений: 1
In Italy, the confiscated 500 fake pictures

Italian Carabinieri seized more than 500 fake paintings worth about seven million euros, according to La Repubblica. In particular, were seized counterfeits of Henri Matisse, Rene Magritte, Giorgio De Chirico, Renato Guttuso, Mario Siron, Umberto Boccioni, Mimmo Rotella, Franco Gentilini and others.
Paintings, drawings, graphics and chromolithograph were seized in the homes of owners who got them through Internet auctions, hoping to invest money. Experts noted the high quality fakes. The operation took place throughout Italy.

The investigation into the mass production of counterfeit started six years ago, when the prosecutor's office in Rome, Palermo, Siena and together began to track cash transactions at some popular sites, in particular - on online auctions. As a result, 12 suspects have been identified in trading fake pictures, all of them arrested. The Court of Rome also decided to close the Internet auction that belonged to one of the detainees.

In addition to the fakes were seized and two ancient works: the image of St. John, formerly wrongly attributed to Guido Reni, as well as a stolen work Teofilo Patina, which sold for 600,000 euros.

http://www.lenta.ru/news/2010/08/25/counterfeit/


Figure Henri Matisse, exhibited for sale at online auction site. Screenshot from the site ebay.com:


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