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K-Maler 29.10.2009 19:11

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 669652)
In the usual (and in unusual) galleries you can buy work from 200 euros and for 2000 is already very, very much weaker. In Odessa, in the galleries, I was offered a "miracle" for $ 3500, but in general ... for 800. Moreover, parallel lives another picture world with other prices. And most importantly, foreign 200 euros, when relocating to the Ukrainian reality must become 60 $, but not in 800. To at least some economic relevance was. And since this business is not converted into business, but in rare razvodilovo caught.

Dumb time ago, came not in small, in a tiny carver-

NATA NOVA 29.10.2009 20:44

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Сообщение от Buscador (Сообщение 669672)
And where, in what country you tracker information on the commission?

In Britain, rented exhibition space sorovozhdayutsya free leaflets, where all the details spelled out in detail, described what can that be, by the hour, the seasons, with plans, descriptions and dimensions of equipment and so on and so forth (and specifically constructively)
Your question (after a stay in Kiev) I understand. Speaking metaphorically, the "what in the window, then in the store.
. And in Kiev, as all things are done "illegally" in the same place I was offered prostransvo exhibition. if I buy their tickets at $ 300 ... and, of course, no specifics, and (of course) a written contract and (consequently) the obligations .. And nowhere is no information .. such as netsivilno completely ...
Even in the subway stations there are no plans for some reason ... Although all advertising, even though plenty of ..

Seriy 29.10.2009 20:59

NATA NOVA, I also kills the absence of the Kiev subway cars subway maps. More - subways in downtown Kiev-t e if you need to go to the other side of the street, you enter a transition, but get out at best through the first three quarters, and even the city of Melitopol. For those who do not know, so create buyers for endless underground shopping centers.
Inhabitable property in Kiev now from 20 hryvnia per sq m per month. See newspaper Vouchers-www.aviso.ua/ T e 100 m-2000 grams per month, t e $ 250
There are rumors that the National Museum of Art at Grushevskogo rooms rent inexpensively.

Post their pictures are not a problem, what next? promotion is a train daily work. T e of the artist become both gallery owners, agent? a picture of where to write? because his shoes, too, can learn to sew?
Still gallery owner - is a separate profession.
Or hire people to write about your paintings? :-)

LCR 29.10.2009 21:24

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Сообщение от Art-ort (Сообщение 668346)
If the West artist signs a contract with the gallery, the gallery, in turn, undertakes to implement it so the artist's works, on how it podpisyvaet.Dopustim artist signed a contract for 30 paintings a year, and sold gallery only 20-so 10 remaining, she buys a hudozhnika.Takim way the artist socially protected

Chestno govoria, ia takih galerei eschio ne vstrechal. Podobnaia praktika vstrechaetsia u auktsionnyh domov, kogda oni garantiruiut prodazu pokupateliu, v bor'be za poluchenie kachestvennoi kollektsii, iv sluchae chego vykupaiut kartinu sami.

I do not understand why this practice is surprising, because it is simply an exclusive contract, and until, say, mid 70's. all the major galleries of the West worked on such a model (I already wrote that this explains the impressive run-off in such galleries as the Minotaur or Schmid, whose fathers were with their exclusive). Here is an example of Maurice Utrillo, who for decades was the exclusive with Petridesom now at 1 week (I put a small article about how the concrete exercise of this contract). In Nicolas de Stael in 1940-s. was a contract with a gallery of Joan Buchez.
From the present surviving artists will call Edik Steinberg, who has this kind of contract with a gallery of Claude Bernard. Of course, this is not an isolated case.

Now about the other.
For forty years, visiting galleries, I never saw that the fees are posted on public display. But in the shops clothing is not advertised price at which they purchased it. So you're really a little too demanding for the poor gallery owner:)

NATA NOVA 29.10.2009 22:09

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 670252)
T e of the artist become both gallery owners, agent?

Eugene Gapchinskaya-a shining example of a niche, and "formula and" myself gallerist "

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 670252)
Or hire people to write about your paintings? :-)

Very often in the "Modern hall art" ..

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Сообщение от LCR (Сообщение 670282)
I do not understand why this practice is surprising, because it is simply an exclusive contract,

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Сообщение от LCR (Сообщение 670282)
For forty years, visiting galleries, I never saw that the fees are posted on public display.

This refers to (I mean) only one aspect, when the gallery rent (for money or painting) artist to their exhibition space. in this case. estesstvenno that all still want to know what actually does the money come .. (conditions, details, insurance points. obligations-in other words)
And the practice of the way, plelestnaya, especially for beginners, all the same any guarantees for the artist

Seriy 29.10.2009 22:48

NATA NOVA, but what else, if paintings myself to write once?

Examples of himself, a gallery owner, of course, there is, but personally for myself imagine it hard .. should be in the gallery, at work or take people at home? So personal house to open?

Fed 29.10.2009 23:12

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Сообщение от LCR (Сообщение 670282)
prices in the galleries, too, as a rule, do not specify


AlexanderG 30.10.2009 03:17

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Сообщение от Buscador (Сообщение 669642)
Let's, for a start, we define what a gallery, what a beauty, what a kom.magazin ... And then there are misunderstandings. At least for me, because rzdelyayu these concepts.

Opredelit'sia ochen 'prosto: kommercheskoe predpriiatie i nekommercheskoe predpriiatie.

U liubogo biznesa zadacha - poluchenie pribyli.

Nekommercheskoe predpriiatie mozet imet 'samye razlichnye tseli.

Vse ostal'nye posledstviia ishodiat tol'ko is etogo nachala.

NATA NOVA 30.10.2009 11:24

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Сообщение от AlexanderG (Сообщение 670692)
zanimaetsia chem-libo professional'no.

A "professional" is like - "commercial" or "academic"?

AlexanderG 30.10.2009 11:30

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 671032)
A "professional" is like - "commercial" or "academic"?

A eto v zavisimosti ot professii: D


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