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Кирилл Сызранский 12.04.2013 21:54

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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 2552981)
The fact that the Chinese are very good buy contemporary artists who will not name artists.

The Chinese are buying and Sovkome, and Shishkin.

Take expensive finished paintings of large format.
Bought, precisely.
:)>

Vladimir 12.04.2013 22:00

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Сообщение от Victor-b; 2552671"
AA Tatarinov - 66 units , the price is 198 329 651 - RR

On average, $ 100 thousand rubles apiece ? For the money it is already possible to look closely to the first name. It is estimated that until they have been tested on a real battle auction , treat warily .

In general , if there are people who know the subject , you would advise newcomers promising direction and vision. We have, by the way, the site has a rating of profitability, it is also possible to navigate (with optional test in manual mode) .

Fantozzi 12.04.2013 22:06

Will be on the horizon, the Chinese or the Americans, or anyone else , let me know. Prompt address of artists ( in the region) in which a large stock of paintings of the Soviet period (seen with my own eyes ). I myself do not have what I wanted, I bought myself , as things stand at the wall, gathering dust . Saw the work of 200x200 , with the stamp of the Tretyakov Gallery - was selected in 1990 , and then returned to the artist for neimeneem funds. Home to hang - only in a museum.

Konstantin 12.04.2013 22:15

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Сообщение от Fantozzi; 2552901"
About China - I told the guys who paved the way there . Very good living in the sale of social realism in China .

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Сообщение от Fantozzi; 2553061"
will be on the horizon, the Chinese or the Americans, or anyone else , let me know. Prompt addresses artists

So the children and would give already trampled all .
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Сообщение от Fantozzi; 2552991"
Sam did not hold a candle

Now that's closer.

Самвел 12.04.2013 22:23

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Сообщение от Fantozzi; 2552991"
himself did not hold a candle , but can not be excluded . Given the aggressive behavior of the Chinese to buy up everything and the whole - I assume that the facts are . However , given the semiconscious state of the art market in Moscow, may have a more active search for the meaning of the client outside of our country. Well, not with clover was there to work, and the Soviet period - what you need.

Yes you can, but in order to carry serious Luggages there , this is still far away (although anything can change quickly ) but the social realism ( in the spirit of Lenin kolkhoz , Stalin, which were performed in order to mills for schools , collective farms and state farms) can be quite poor quality . Especially here that you could buy for a penny already .

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 2553011"
The Chinese are buying and Sovkome , and Shishkin.
Take expensive finished paintings of large format. Bought, precisely.

Well, we know the Chinese very much, it's possible that buying quality things , but mostly it does not . Yes, quite important for them to large meter , completed .

Fantozzi 13.04.2013 07:23

Angry, you, Constantine.
Constantly ernichayu, too, and say there is nothing impossible.

Кирилл Сызранский 13.04.2013 09:27

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Сообщение от Fantozzi (Сообщение 2552901)
About China - I told the guys who paved the way there.
Very good living in the sale of socialist realism in China.

They carry social realism there?

Konstantin 13.04.2013 09:29

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Сообщение от Fantozzi; 2553401"
evil , you , Constantine .

I like the phrase " strict but fair ...." :)>, but it's certainly not personal qualities , but the fact that a professional forum . On the day on it are about 3000 people and in this case of course the special requirements for the information that appears here in the form of sentences.

artcol 13.04.2013 10:01

In the Soviet period the few who know, this is a fact.
There's still a lot of discoveries in contrast to ...

Fantozzi 13.04.2013 10:20

Sorry, Constantine, and professionals - who is this?
Collector - is a professional or not?
Collector?
People astray art?
Or the site is only for merchants and antique dealers?
Define categories, please.

Кирилл Сызранский 13.04.2013 10:21

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Сообщение от artcol; 2553511"
In the Soviet period the few who know , it is a fact .

Yes, the artists of the Soviet period not published thousands of books, hundreds of thousands of albums , not napisy thousand scientific articles and abstracts, to the works of these artists not defended thousands of theses , for the entire Soviet period not out "The Artist " - a monthly illustrated magazine for art , not published a monthly magazine "Creation" specializing in the theory and art criticism - organ of the Union of Artists , not was published in 1933 , the magazine "Art", dedicated to contemporary art in the USSR /Russia and abroad , and even not was published in the USSR since 1936 , the magazine " Young artist" , a monthly magazine of the Union of artists of the USSR , the Academy of Arts of the USSR and the Central Committee of Komsomol.

All this, of course, is yet to come .
  :D>

Fantozzi 13.04.2013 10:25

For Cyril . Yes. Guys from Peter. Participate in art fairs in China. Naturally our art of the Soviet period . Their impressions , nothing more. Carry - it is not " driven trains ," was just the beginning of the discussion the results of Antique Salon . In any case they are the results of their participation in trade fairs and shops there the happy. What exactly - does this mean in terms of money, I have no idea

Кирилл Сызранский 13.04.2013 10:29

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Сообщение от Fantozzi; 2553521"
or a site for antique dealers and sellers ?

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site ARTinvestment.RU addressed collectors and professional market participants , especially the galleries, investors and analysts .
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Сообщение от Fantozzi; 2553541"
Take part in art fairs in China.

OK, understood, thanks .

Fantozzi 13.04.2013 10:33

You can then go under the brand - the investor.

artcol 13.04.2013 10:39

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2553591)
You , above all, in the course and , as I understand , in the art of the Soviet period are good . :D>

Yes. In the second half of the 20th century. Something with which I work.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2551861)

About the movie do not ask , I understand that you all day long , see " The Girls" and Spring on Zarechnaya street. "
When spring comes, I do not know
Rains , snow descend .
But you tell me, my own street ,
And in bad weather road .
( a ) :D>

For example, this statement disrupt the applause , I regularly listens .

Recording with the recital of the composer Alexandra Pakhmutova. 1975 Music Pakhmutova, N. Dobronravov words .


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