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Сергей_Беликов 06.07.2013 10:33

Well, here we go ...
It is also - like, auction?

kazerov 06.07.2013 12:57

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 2663161)
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P.S. So what's the conclusion? Investors do not want even a $ 30 buy?
Now sit your elbows bite .

conclusions made ​​by all and not a few .
biting or not who where the elbows I have no idea. as for me , yes : I expect to sell pictures at a maximum of a statement ( s ) the amount of () and I'm glad I did not have to rely Rastan with a masterpiece for 1000 ( rubles).

Сергей_Беликов 06.07.2013 13:31

kazerov, since given way to 1000 rubles, or not?

kazerov 06.07.2013 13:51

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Сообщение от Sergey_Belikov (Сообщение 2663411)
kazerov, since given way to 1000 rubles or not?

have tried to back up her words and intentions to sell at the maximum amount claimed.
transaction could take place and for 1000 rubles, and the auction is supposed to be declared invalid.
would

Seriy 06.07.2013 14:19

Yes, somehow ended quite sour, though predictable. An artist can not set the auction rules. Both experienced auctioneer Babulin Constantine had to say it-ok, so auction auction, once is not provenance, but the rules are the zero-reserve, zero start, too.
Then we can at least see what a show. And since no-show, no intrigue, no auction ... And who's what I learned?
 I have to work Gormlis once sold below the reserve, for 30 pounds, EM 1500 rubles. I was offended, wrote a letter, but the deal has not canceled. They said sorry, the error came out, will not happen again. And at the last auction with my work again, one by 30 pounds sold. Again, I did not cancel the deal, I will quarrel with the auction due to 1500 rubles? - But warned that will require confirmation before the auction reserve, but will be below the reserve, have to cancel the deal because chtoodin time, okay, but .... Why are they sold for 30 - yes very simply, the auction should show a percentage of sales, no will participate in the auction with 20%of sales, it's boring and ineffective. So if there is a real buyer, auction easy to sell below the reserve job, the percentage of sales is reached, again a pleasant atmosphere sales and availability, and if the seller balked, well, cancel the deal, just something and the business.
This I mean that the auction should be a show, not a predictable death boredom and stupidity. The show put a deuce.

Кирилл Сызранский 06.07.2013 14:35

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 2663471)
and if the seller balked, well, cancel the deal, just something and the business.

Do not cancel the deal, while they themselves pay the reserve price.

kazerov 06.07.2013 15:02

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 2663471)
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although predictable ...

predictions - announced before the event.
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Seriy 06.07.2013 16:51

Cyril Syzransky, for this it is necessary to have a document in hand, confirming the reserve. Auction sometimes sends to confirm the price before the auction, the reserves of lots, and sometimes not. Secondly, I have that, I will swear to the auction because of such sums? If a decent amount, then it's probably putting design and lots more. Or take two months or more waiting until the buyer transfers money auction for PRODANOV work. Listed. Different variants occur. Not for me, but I saw a lot more when bidami reached the reserve, declared neprodanym. For example, Christie's Interior in the auction catalog does not print the unsold lots, and was not Gormlis print Prodan. All sorts of games they have there internal politics, not all like-bounds.

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kazerov, Duc I also suggest you to declare a draw conclusions, for example, to predict the results of the auction - 1000 rubles premium. That would be your weight predictions. In fact, in real life, draw conclusions after neprodazhi lot is always followed, from the postage to return the work of the invoice for the photo, with the catalog, and sometimes administration fee, refusal to accept new work. Several times did not sell and auction bids farewell to the artist. This is why artists who live auction and exposing a lot of work, most low-cost reserves, because if the percentage of unsold lots exceeds a limit, the auction will reduce the total number of lots artist.

Кирилл Сызранский 06.07.2013 17:59

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 2663611)
for this it is necessary to have a document in hand, confirming the reserve.

Yes, my phrase refers to the traditional live auctions, when the deliverer draws up a contract to hell and it prescribes reserve
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kazerov 07.07.2013 06:56

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 2663611)
kazerov, Duc I also suggest you to declare a draw conclusions , for example, to predict the results of the auction - 1000 rubles premium. That would be your weight predictions ...

Tote out of place here . here's your prediction:
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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 2660671)
kazerov, but what if the auction does not take place ? some draw conclusions ? ...

" not held " and " is not held " - completely different .


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