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Fed 20.04.2012 19:20

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 2078791)
Lenin, "... because this is often paskudnichaet intellectuals bastard".

This applied to some lawyers who opposed intelligent lawyers.

That is,
probably assumed that the intelligentsia is a bastard, but there are intellectuals, well done.

Posav 21.04.2012 11:11

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2077861)
Agree, it is difficult to name a person is called intellectuals cattle people. I do not agree that the intelligentsia had died. Most people can say, is silent, silent people, and someone scary. Hence, all these TV affectation.

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2079251)

Sta priest or a saint Anyone can bandit, you only need to repent committed sins and turn to God and to the right and to the right place and everything is ready at least a saint. Intelegentsiey there and does not smell.
 

Inteligentsiya There is an aristocracy, and it is not the same thing. In our conditions, a new aristocracy, and there is trash, because they are not assigned their own, but what you built and accumulated very society that they destroyed the meanness and deceit. The latest Forbes list some of them, some masked, others subservient to it and call it art, intelligent, stars, etc.

The intellectual, by definition, can not use such words, and so to call people. Sotsalnoe intellectual creation. Is there such a thing as asotsialy. So here is the so-called asotsialy not only on the bottom, but with the formation of asotsialy rich asotsialy. They did not steal a bottle of beer at the kiosk, and millions are living pig, do not get drunk in a ditch, and the VIP - parties, matyugayusya not in the alley, and in his ZhZhshke. Asotsal not necessarily homeless, it may be representative of the sophisticated "top" or so-called "Elite." In general, the common man could be better, kinder than the well-read nerd. We can say there are bright people who have light and dark in my soul, in which it is not.

Кирилл Сызранский 21.04.2012 11:40

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Сообщение от Posav; 2079291"
intellectual , by definition, can not use such words , and so to call the people .

How? " Cattle "?
Maybe even both .

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Cattle is not a vocabulary and manner of behavior in society. Cattle is a system of values. For cattle it is important to have someone above them in command , and trash completely and obediently carries out the command . Cattle denies the personality in all its manifestations. And above all, such features as liberty, property and dignity. First of all, freedom is denied . The worst thing for cattle is losing his master, and to obtain freedom. Because cattle can not live in freedom, it can not make itself, it is afraid to take responsibility for their own lives , but try to shift it to the owner. Cattle include any wage-worker , denying liberal values ​​.

Артём 21.04.2012 12:06

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Сообщение от Kirill Syzran ; 2079311"
cattle include any wage-worker

Pulled out of the context of disagreement . Here I am riding on the train daviche Simferopol- Sevastopol, a man sat down in front of me , train was traveling for a long time , and we chatted , I took him tick . He said that the gardener works , goes to the Crimea where the work is. Were talking about religion , then politics, art and even a few words thrown about secret societies , a man spoke calmly and confidently, many interesting things about Islam told . Of course, I was surprised and asked him a question that somehow does not look like a gardener . And he told me : " Yes, one redneck in a chair shoved me in jail ! Read books , worked in the garden of the church in the colony, and now that's a gardener . "
So it is not always working cattle , and in fact on the master works , and often on cattle.

Кирилл Сызранский 21.04.2012 12:12

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Сообщение от Artem (Сообщение 2079331)
pulled out from the context

In-in, but do not have to pull:

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cattle include any wage-worker, denying liberal values.


Pavel 21.04.2012 14:17

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2079311)
How do I ? " Cattle "?
Maybe even both .

Somehow forget that their grandparents, mom and dad worked all his life and brought up at last. Now all they have gained sharply detya forgets that he is and where it is their parents have created them , while they themselves were beaten out of the bottom. In general, these arguments are a who's who really looks like such rudeness , I'm inteligent , and all of you ... It is not good . Many e forgotten that their ancestors only because Lenin got out of the basement and place.
The first talked about this dermokraty when they ride on the election. All of these Nemtsov and Hakamada dosih not been able to forgive the people that they are thrown into the dustbin of history.
Constantine ! Lenin had in mind another inteligentsiyu . That which supported the king and war , and for which people were cattle , we are , incidentally, also

манна 21.04.2012 15:05

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Сообщение от Artem; 2079331"
So it is not always working cattle, and in fact on the master works, and often in cattle.

Tom, of course I can not disagree with you. Simply there is some confusion in the sense that you mean people. We've learned that people are people of physical labor. And if people understood by the population (the population), which is a "redneck", everything falls into place.

On the cattle

     There is an opinion that the cattle - it is definitely lumpen, with Gopnik
proletarian suburbs. This type cattle, in fact, is very characteristic,
but they are not limited to cattle. Cattle may have a higher
education and well-paid job, it may even be a good
specialist in a narrow area - and yet still remain
cattle. The defining features of the same cattle are the following:
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     Cattle kollektivistichno, as follows from the very essence of the term
("Trash" - in Polish "cattle"). Belonging to a team is to
cattle the highest value. Values ​​of the team received cattle
axiomatically, and the idea that they can be questioned,
is either angry or laugh (at times - both at once).
Personal opinion has no trash, taking as such, they perceived
a set of ready-made stamps, in principle, subject to review and revision.

     As a result, cattle divides the world into our own and Nenashev. We are always
right, because they are ours. Nenashev to hate and despise for
they Nenashev. Accordingly, no discussion with Nenashev (and their
defenders, who are also automatically become Nenashev) can not be
in principle, for cattle blasphemous to consider the idea of ​​their arguments
seriously.

     As a consequence, redneck patriotic. Most often it is
nation-state patriotism, but it could be religious, and
corporate, etc. Often these kinds of patriotism combined
(Giving rise to such, for example, combinations, a convinced Communist (which
by definition, must be an internationalist), who hates Jews and
Americans). At the same redneck, of course, has no concept of covenant is not
confused with the homeland authorities. On the contrary - cattle, as it should be
good flock, the shepherd of his loves. Moreover, the more severe
Shepherd (in the terminology of cattle - "cool"), the great love he
deserves. The greatest delight of cattle, of course, is cruelty
to Nenashev, and cruelty to their encounters, as
at least, understanding, and often the approval. At the same time, if at least one
one hundredth of what glorifies their cattle herders, have worked with him
Representative Nenashev, cattle would have torn it up. Cattle poor knowledge of their
history, but is convinced that it must be respected. Their patriotic anger or
rednecks like to express delight the night screaming at the windows of their
countrymen and riots in his hometown. In all this trash
does not see any contradiction.

     Cattle aggressively. He just need someone to hate. Cattle
considers violence, verbal or physical, is not only permissible, but
the most correct answer to the arguments of opponents. All your troubles
redneck explains the machinations of enemies (enemies - is, of course, and Nenashev
traitors, peremetnuvshiesya on their side, but in any case not the shepherds
cattle, no matter what they were doing). Cattle firmly believes that Nenashev
Our hate is just as sincerely and passionately hates how it is itself
Nenashev, and devote his entire life (at least, the policy exactly)
Moreover, to harm our. If there are no enemies, invents them rednecks. At
Thus those Nenashev, which are clearly too peaceful and far removed from politics,
to be real enemies, deserve heartfelt contempt
cattle and are subject to constant derogatory jokes to help
redneck mind to revel in their own superiority.

     Cattle can not live without vulgarity. Cattle like to swear, and not
only in anger, but in a quiet conversation. However, the most
formed part of the cattle may initially be polite - but only until
long as the other person does not express ideas contrary to the worldview
cattle. Here lowbrow manifests itself in all its glory. Cattle believes
required to respond to the insult of Nenashev-pejorative manner.
In this case, when the old insults from the endless repetition of stop
perceived as prevalent as before, redneck invents new ones. "Yankee" and
"Ukrainians" no longer sounds quite rude - then the course will go in the "Pindos"
and "shielding the".

     Cattle considers itself the bearer of high morals. Such, depending
on the cultural level and social status of cattle, may be cited
concepts of right kids, the moral code of the builder of communism,
Orthodox spirituality, corporate ethics, etc. In any case,
cattle, even with difficulty regaining consciousness after a week-long binge, according to a
moral standard, down watching the rest steeped in vice
world. The slightest deviation from these moral principles (whether
whether they are reasonable and justified by themselves) by Nenashev
becomes the object of fierce denunciations, and moreover, considers lowbrow
meanness is the very presence of the views which do not comply Our axioms. In
at the same time, any meanness towards Our Nenashev not simply
forgiven, and is delighted: "That's how we did!"

     Trash can in principle imagine that the point of view,
other than his own, may be sincere and unselfish. It
absolutely convinced that anyone who expresses a point of view,
does this because he is paid from the enemies of Nenashev. At the same time he
fact that the staff propagandists Our work is certainly not free,
even if you only talk about their official income, cattle, of course, not
confused.

     But the main property of cattle is, of course, nonsense,
which do not contradict the existence of even a prestigious diploma and
professional success in any intellectual field.
The intellectual part of the cattle is similar to a computer that is capable of
to perform highly complex operations on a given program, but not having
mind, is incapable of questioning the program, nor,
more to change it. Here are, in contrast to the majority of computer,
program, which works on cattle, it is absolutely destructive.
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Кирилл Сызранский 21.04.2012 15:17

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2079471)
all somehow forget that their grandparents, mom and dad worked all his life and brought up at last.

The main thing you remember.

Ktati you, as I understand, too, somewhere, "came out."

Is this not?


Threw his small home to die?

Магнолия 22.04.2012 10:47

Guru Posav, correct the content of quoting from me.
Attributed to the fact that I basically could not say, but still with an error that distorts the concept of "intelligent."

Pavel 22.04.2012 14:01

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2079311)
How do I?
"Cattle"?

Maybe even both.


Actually, it's a sheep <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2079531)
The main thing you remember. Yeah?

Ktati you , as I understand , too, somewhere , " came out ."
Is this not ?

Threw his small home to die ?

Judging by my pictures , from there, but only 50 years ago, and not just me . These places have become so thanks to the efforts of government, or rather the people who naplevatelstvo lives there . This is the result of the Board . This is advertising which achieved a result of 20 years in office . Good photo <! - ~ 1 ~ ->


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