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Евгений 16.11.2008 16:08

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 106686)
He was an outcast, wrote in the table "."..

Outcast as he was, but at an exhibition in Moscow did not take, you are right .. In life he became a classic .. Yes, several of his works hung in the branch of VI Lenin Museum in Tashkent.

nikola 16.11.2008 16:10

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Сообщение от SergeiSK (Сообщение 106416)
This debate will never end. It is not art, but in the ideology of each party to the dispute. Who's lives spiritually, he even loves ... Who likes bright "Jack of Diamonds", and who somber Rabin. This is a matter of taste.

Focus on flavor, this case cooking. The task of the artist taste
educate and shape. In the first place by themselves. Do not hurry to
obtaining titles and regalia. Nationalism and is Honored
main problem of the period "social realism". In art salons and apartments
not hang paintings, and academics painting.
Sell and buy not art, and autographs. Preferably, oil on canvas.
K. Sobchak, recently sold its worn obuvki, from some
cut the weight. And this is no longer a matter of taste, this problem is lack of taste
society.

Евгений 16.11.2008 16:10

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 106686)
For seriously carry on these conversations becoming increasingly difficult. I think it and you will feel it. No?

Normal discussion ..

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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 106706)
Art is either or its not. and discuss it's shameful for such a forum.

A Western art and we are not discussing who is interested in Russia?, It is hard to say ..

artcol 16.11.2008 16:16

To argue of course, but reading is really funny.
It is impossible in this forum to discuss such issues.
All messed up. Substitution of the substance and form, and vice versa.
West - a synonym for global, Russian - only national (unfortunately).
Socialist realism, as the project entirely propagandistic, interfere with art.
Market and the creative, cultural process.
and so on.
No, pardon me: D

Кирилл Сызранский 16.11.2008 16:17

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 106716)
he was not an outcast,

His "socialist realists" Your favorite as "formalist" hounded and expelled even from the Tashkent school where he taught a quarter-century.

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 106736)
A Western art and we are not discussing who is interested in Russia

For example, me.
And you, no?

Евгений 16.11.2008 16:18

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Сообщение от nikola (Сообщение 106726)
K. Sobchak, recently sold its worn obuvki,

Yes, it's just a performance, the game .. topical, contemporary art .. with Western deviations (there really jars with bow ... m, exhibited).
Permormans unlike painting does not require special training for the
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adequate perception, on the contrary, it implies rejection of conventional expectations and approaches to it as a work of art. The most correct here will be disinterested assessment of a random passer-by who took what he saw as a normal life seems strange case, did not have time to bow to the consumer aesthetic values and to lose self-judgment and uncomplicated feelings ...

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 106766)
His "socialist realists" Your favorite as "formalist" hounded and expelled even from the Tashkent school where he taught a quarter-century

At the expense Volkova You are mistaken, but I will not argue ..

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 106766)
And you, no?

I was only 17-18 age ..

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 106766)
His "socialist realists" like your favorite

Cyril I have you and your friends (lovers of the avant-garde), wrote a hundred times, I like the other painting .. not connected with the concept of Socialist Realism.

Кирилл Сызранский 16.11.2008 16:24

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 106786)
At the expense of Volkova You're wrong, but I will not argue

You have to have companies, ask about the biography of the artist, as an example since it leads. And there is nothing to argue, it is known to all fans of Alexander Volkov.
And he generally as a "cubist" is interesting ...

SergeiSK 16.11.2008 16:28

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Сообщение от nikola (Сообщение 106726)
focus on taste, this case cooking. The task of the artist taste
educate and shape. In the first place by themselves. Do not hurry to
obtaining titles and regalia. Nationalism and is Honored
main problem of the period "social realism". In art salons and apartments
not hang paintings, and academics painting.
Sell and buy not art, and autographs. Preferably, oil on canvas.
K. Sobchak, recently sold its worn obuvki, from some
cut the weight. And this is no longer a matter of taste, this problem is lack of taste
society.

And on that benchmark? The taste of someone else's uncle? No, I will be at your best.
Nationalism and Honored - this is a problem today, when everyone can buy, but not the last time these titles were given to work and deservedly, even vysluzhenno, but not for money.
And on the wall of each is free to hang what he likes and what allows it to his pocket. And as anyone with academic painting will be better than an upstart with a fashionable art-salon. So we collect the names, combining art with cost-effective acquisition and investment. And preferably, oil on canvas!
Cite here the example Sobchak similar to the example shown here is higher, when Socialist Realism was charged with the murder of the royal family.

Кирилл Сызранский 16.11.2008 16:30

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 106836)
Tashkenskom Museum of Art from 1990-2002,

We have to learn where to go.
Poor knowledge of the biography of the famous Uzbek artist.
But the trouble is many of the "museum workers.

Евгений 16.11.2008 16:35

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 106856)
does not speak the biography of the famous Uzbek artist.

Well, you have "academic" for the Uzbek painting .. you are in the hands of Alexander Volkov, has ever had .. or live work 1940-1950 saw?


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