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zarajara 14.08.2012 09:23

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Сообщение от Grigory (Сообщение 2202311)
combined the two themes!

Thank you, great!
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Spouses of Lee Miller and Roland Penrose Aldzheron
in both it was the second marriage.
Both have come a long way is marked by scandals.

[COLOR="rgb (75, 0, 130)"], Sir Roland Algernon Penrose 1900-1984 (born Sir Roland Algernon Penrose), - British artist, writer and art historian. One of the founders of the surrealist movement in the UK and the Institute of Contemporary Arts in London. [/COLOR]


Lee Miller 1907 - 1977 - American photographer and model.
The daughter of an engineer, inventor, amateur photographer who shot her daughter, including - naked, and instill an appreciation for her to photography from an early age. In the 1920s, was a fashion model in New York. Her photographs of Edward Steyhen, one of the images used in advertising Koteks feminine sanitary pads, which caused a scandal.

In 1929 she moved to Paris, became an assistant and a model of Man Ray (1930-1931 photos "Neck", "Lee Miller", "Electricity"). Began photographing herself, some pictures of this period, Ray actually met Lee Miller. Together with Ray applied the technique of solarization. It has become an active participant in surrealist movement, closer to Picasso (he wrote her portrait, 1937), Eluard, Cocteau starred as a statue in Cocteau's film Blood of a poet (1930).


There are articles on Wikipedia.
In addition there is a site Penrose, all of it under copyright, I'm not going to use them for commercial purposes, but to publish in any case refrain.
PS. This right only hurts the artist's popularity. Because of the very few materials Penrose not only in Russian, but also in English.

http://www.rolandpenrose.co.uk/main.aspx

Portraits of Lee Miller on this site http://www.mutualart.com/Artist/Man-...DED7E335FC6059

zarajara 14.08.2012 13:51

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The couple Lee Miller and Roland Penrose Aldzheron
both it was a second marriage.
Both were long and spectacular scandals way.

Sir Roland Algernon Penrose 1900-1984 (born Sir Roland Algernon Penrose), - a British artist, writer and art historian. One of the founders of the surrealist movement in the UK and the Institute of Contemporary Arts in London.


Lee Miller 1907 - 1977 - American photographer and model.
The daughter of an engineer, inventor, amateur photographer, who shot daughter, including - naked and instill an appreciation for photography with her childhood. In the 1920s, a fashion model in New York. Her photographs of Edward Steyhen, one of the images was used in advertising Koteks feminine sanitary pads, which caused a scandal.

In 1929 he moved to Paris, became an assistant and model of Man Ray (1930-1931 pictures "neck", "Lee Miller", "Electricity"). Began photographing herself, some photos of Ray that period actually met Lee Miller. Together with Ray applied the technique of solarization. Became an active member of surrealist movement, has moved closer to Picasso (he wrote her portrait, 1937), Eluard, Cocteau, starred in the film as a statue of the poet Cocteau's Blood (1930).


There are articles in Wikipedia.
In addition there is a site Penrose, all of it under copyright, I'm not going to use them for commercial purposes, but to publish in any case refrain.
PS. This right only hurts the artist popularity. Because of Penrose's very little material not only in Russian but also in English.

http://www.rolandpenrose.co.uk/main.aspx

Portraits of Lee Miller from this site http://www.mutualart.com/Artist/Man-...DED7E335FC6059

K-Maler 14.08.2012 20:02

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Сообщение от zarajara; 2200561"
On the other hand, in two subjects there is a reason , I suppose, that there should not affect the work and biographies , and not just artists .

Perhaps not everyone knows the book , Alain and Odette Wyrm " Masters of the world of Surrealism " (St. Petersburg, Academic Project , 1996). It contains exhaustive (or almost ) information about the movement in chronological order and all the accompanying context, including newspaper articles, and all the scandals , films, opponents , etc. And all the names that had anything to do with the process ...
But the pictures are not very many , although there are rare , so many thanks to all publish your pictures here.

zarajara 14.08.2012 20:35

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 2203021)
Perhaps not everyone knows the book , Alain and Odette Wyrm " Masters of the world of Surrealism " (St. Petersburg, Academic Project , 1996). It contains exhaustive (or almost ) information about the movement in chronological order and all the accompanying context, including newspaper articles, and all the scandals , films, opponents , etc. And all the names that had anything to do with the process ...
But the pictures are not very many , although there are rare , so many thanks to all publish your pictures here .

Thanks for the info . I tried to find a download , but did not find the appropriate link .
On the other hand found a small booklet article by Alexander Rozhin "Historical Surrealism "


Art-lover 20.08.2012 22:44

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Сообщение от zarajara; 2202251"
Well, you never know what the artist says about himself, recognized in surrealism is not "fashionable." Savadov correctly picked the actual brand - "postmodernism."
Only postmodernism - not the direction in this bunch is going.
With regard to the conscious and the unconscious, there is somewhat more complicated. The fact is that the unconscious is just "proshmygivaet" on the shoulders of the conscious and very elusive when you try to portray it instead.
By the way, it's better as a Arshile Gorky and Joan Miro, than that of the Dali, and even better - the poets. Yet the process of painting with oil too long, "material": if you want - or not - to line up the composition to make a preliminary sketch, underpainting, and then-sketches. Spontaneity can be expressed in the figure, well, in watercolors, but writing two weeks spontaneously does not work ...
But I was just reasoning ... Spontaneous :)

Savadov something just right to position themselves, and not for the brand, "postmodernism," which had long been burned in the sun, and covered with dust.
He lives postmodernist. All his creations are completely covered with the birthmarks of postmodernism: quotations, allusions, remenistsentsiyami, and political irony.
In surrealist modernist irony hardening seared through a canvas as sulfuric acid. :)

But that's not the only problem, and in the structure and features of the personality of the artist. Consciousness is total: the conscious and unconscious in its composition - inseparable Siamese twins. That's only the proportions, the activity and the quality of these components of the psyche are different. One that "liberated" in the works needed hallucinogens or automatisms, and other (rare, rather, types) can go down to the "rabbit hole" unconscious without doping. Some descend deeper than the cellar, inhabited by mice, while others fall into the abyss, where the big swim and strange fish. And catch, respectively, are different.
Spontaneity, by the way - this is just the reception, facilitating breakthrough of unconscious imagery in art, and not a generic feature of surrealism. The main thing - what and where "breaks."

Dali - Surrealist mediocre. But not because he was permanently confined to a canvas consuming a realistic manner, but because he did not have a true "surrealist" vision - so, what was, for example, the "realists" De Chirico and Magritte.

Savadov not surrealist, not because of the complexity arrayed tracks, preventing spontaneous breakthroughs unconscious. His brush is not direct expression of power, rising from the dark depths - that's what matters. He would not like that: he was proud that he very master of all that is in his picture, and that does not have to share the glory with the fee and co-unconscious).) He has, of course, like everyone else, the unconscious - but on the Rights of the apprentice.)

Laura 21.08.2012 10:35

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Сообщение от Art-lover (Сообщение 2212031)
One to " liberated " in the works needed hallucinogens or automatisms , and other (rare, rather , types) can go down the " rabbit hole " unconscious without doping.

There are so many techniques to stimulate creativity without chemicals that Mama Do not Cry :).

The most productive approach - the training of creative thinking by the constant search for analogies , the combination of incongruous (in psychology tend to like thinking schizoid ) , brainstorming (if it is a collective creation ) , practice the left hand ( right hemisphere is responsible zanee responsible for creative thinking ), Dr. and many other technologies. Along the way to solve different puzzles of logic , mathematics , physics or chemistry , it does not give the brain zakostenet .

In general, the choice is huge, life is not enough for all to understand. And with mushrooms and creativity will be incomprehensible to normal people that their Items not . IMHO surrealist creativity should reflect the realities , our lives , but with an unexpected side :)

Магнолия 21.08.2012 13:03

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René Magritte I like one thing:
"Happy giver"

entry number 18

Pay attention! Main idea - Proportionality rectilinear forms of proportion to the curvature.

Just, I wrote about this topic in the "Images of the alphabet" for the theoretician of Surrealism Art-Lover.

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But something is immobilized, - as if trying to grasp the concepts of network phantom.

entry number 22

It's you, Art-lover, immobilized, and I caught a network of concepts without "as if."

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Сообщение от Art-lover; 267495"
This mysterious painting is called "Fourteen Daggers" (1942). I do not know why. But the picture is the number of the plane together form the floor and 13-step through the door.

entry number 31

Art-lover, I will tell you about the number of "fourteen", but I doubt you will be able to understand. Probably will again write an essay that was for "only received a liberal arts education."

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The forum is a real connoisseur of surrealism - the idea was he called to talk to you

And you, Art-lover, not real. Note that this is not my opinion, but I agree with him.

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Сообщение от Art-lover; 1276501"
What's with this in mind, remains in the sediment in the ad text ?

entry number 44

Not " in the sediment ," and the " bottom line ." This is a fundamentally different concept. Chemists know.
The image of the "dry residue " I launched into circulation in 90 years with a history of exemplary . Art-lover, a lecturer should correctly use the images.

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Сообщение от zarajara (Сообщение 2200561)
I guess there should not affect the work, and biography, and not only artists.

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But who looks at the root!!!

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Сообщение от Art-lover (Сообщение 2201041)
The main thing - that remains in the sediment, which is a classic.

 
In the sediment is mud and the dry residue is a classic.

Art-lover, for clarification, please contact the PM.
Explain.

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One to " liberated " in the works needed hallucinogens or automatisms , and other (rare, rather , types) can go down the " rabbit hole " unconscious without doping. Some descend deeper than the cellar , inhabited by mice , while others fall into the abyss, where the big swim and strange fish. And catch, respectively , are different.

This retelling of M.Ichasa . Smacks of plagiarism .

Art-lover 24.08.2012 02:11

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Сообщение от Magnolia, 2212821
This is a paraphrase of M.Ichasa.
Smacks of plagiarism.

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Магнолия 24.08.2012 03:09

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Сообщение от Art-lover (Сообщение 2217881)
blooming flowers: violets, roses, magnolias ...


World productive argument.

Konstantin 24.08.2012 10:10

Magnolia, the theme is " Surrealism and Surrealist "
and let it stick.
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Second, the dry residue does not fall out. I will explain. When a solution of the salt mixture planted all of the ions

You have created the theme of language and around him perfectly, and there can be such considerations are relevant to this topic - no.
Please do not pass this around the forum .


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