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Fed 11.07.2013 21:01

In 2003, he studied at the Russian Academy of Public Service under the President of the Russian Federation on the program "Fundamentals of church-state relations."

 
Bishop Gatchina, Vicar of the Diocese of St. Petersburg, the rector of the St. Petersburg Theological Schools.

Кирилл Сызранский 11.07.2013 21:10

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Gatchinsky Bishop, Vicar of the Diocese of St. Petersburg

 

On 12 March 2013 he was Bishop of Peterhof,

Vicar of the Diocese of St. Petersburg.

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 2669921)
"- what does the Orthodox Church to the Protestant missionaries who come to preach the Gospel in Russia? And if I, as an Orthodox, a meeting of the missionary's how I treat him?


- If you towards the house of the thief comes, how will you treat him?
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Кирилл Сызранский 11.07.2013 22:51

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Сообщение от Fed; 2669921"
" - what does the Orthodox Church to the Protestant missionaries who come to preach the Gospel in Russia ? And if I , as an Orthodox , a meeting of the missionary's how I treat him ?

- If you towards the house of the thief comes , how will you treat him ? "

Picture-in- topic ( banner from today the Moscow Orthodox festival )

Магнолия 11.07.2013 23:04

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triangles and eyes - is not Orthodox, it's the other traditions of other nations .

When I realized that the natural principle adopted as naiperveyshy in the periodic system and coded with the letter "A" ( Aleph , Alpha, az ) , is the principle of "Observation " , in contrast to the image described by Edouard Schure , asked her friend to make the image "subject <=> object. " I have repeatedly shown it on the forum . One forumchanin said: " I ​​do not like the mystical ."
Then I with image of sludge that radiant image of the eye in the triangle - it is a way the same natural principle of "Observation " . However, it has established itself in the minds of people as a religious and atheists are unwilling to accept it as a way of observation .
I would like to find an image of the principle of "Observation " , understood and accepted by all . that is not rejected by either Christians or atheists. My friend , the artist insists that it should be a world- famous painting .

Jasmin 11.07.2013 23:05

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 2670081)
The picture in this topic

Oh, and just in the theme "Image of the alphabet" <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Артём 12.07.2013 11:32

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I would like to find an image of the principle of "Observation", understood and accepted by all.
that is not rejected by either Christians or atheists.

Unlikely to succeed.
I'm afraid for atheists will be hard to understand image of the principle of "Observation" .
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Магнолия 12.07.2013 11:55

Artem, then let it remain a philosophical image "subject <=> object" (available in the essay " The images instead of letters " ) . Girlfriend " took " her husband's eyes with a photo and personalize your photos of the Earth , and the rest - its ability to create with the help of computer programs. My only ideas , tips, and a consent or denial ( and this happens ) .

Самвел 12.07.2013 14:53

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"subject <=> object"

(Peter Uspensky)
All that said Gurdjieff, all I thought of myself, especially one that showed me try to recollect himself, soon convinced me that I was faced with a whole new problem that did not pay attention while neither science nor philosophy.

But before drawing conclusions, I'll try to describe their attempts to self-remembering. The first impression was that it attempts to recollect himself, saying: "I'm coming, I'm doing", constantly feel is the "I" - stop the thought. When I felt the "I", I could not think or talk, and even feelings became clouded. Furthermore, in a similar way to remember it is possible within a very short time.

Previously I have done a few experiments the suspension of thought on the methods mentioned in the books on the practice of yoga. Such a description is available, for example, in the book of Edward Carpenter, "From Adam's Peak to Elephanta," although it is quite broad. My first attempt to recollect himself reminded me of just these experiments. In fact, it was all the same - with the only difference being that when you stop thinking of consciousness and attention is fully absorbed by the efforts to prevent the emergence of new ideas, whereas in recall attention is divided, and one part of it is directed to the same force, and the other - to sense of self.

Realizing this feature, I was able to come to some possibly very incomplete definition of "self-remembering", which, however, in practical terms, has proved very useful.

I'm talking about a divided attention, a characteristic trait of self-remembering. It seemed to me as follows.

When I watch something, my focus is on the observed object, and it can be represented by an arrow:

I -> the observed phenomenon

And when I try to remember yourself at the same time, my focus is on the object, and at himself. There is a second hand:

I <-> the observed phenomenon

Having determined this fact, I realized that the problem is to draw attention to themselves, not weakening and narrowing attention, which in this case is directed at other sites. Moreover, this "other object" can be both inside and outside of me.

Магнолия 12.07.2013 19:02

Samvel, a very interesting quote, and served by the way.

I think the Assumption drew attention to the option when the distance between the subject and the object is negligible, that is, tends to zero.
If the subject=object, the process of observation disappears.
It's funny!

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 2669841)
Orthodoxy, ie, eastern orthodox Christianity


Perhaps it is invisible (forgotten) orthodox roots of Gnosticism, which I.S.Sventsitskaya wrote in his monographs on early Christianity.

Магнолия 14.07.2013 10:10

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Assumption drew attention to the option when the distance between the subject and the object is negligible, that is, tends to zero. If the subject = object, the process of observation disappears.

It is interesting that the very first touch of the natural system of principles that can be identified and letters and images, the principle of the letter "A" was named by me "The Observer".
I do not spread my work, "The Evolution of Rights" to the Internet, but personally for you, Samvel, show a very important passage.

"It would be very desirable to see the beginning of the sequence of principles, but it is difficult to assume that the point of view to inspire the" contemplation "of the principle of natural, as if opening a mysterious system. Came to the aid of a couple of paragraphs from the book" Germes "(Misteriya Egypt) E.Shyure : "Just kak palets, trogayuschiy string lyre, making the sound one note unto scheme, privodit kolebanie unto all garmoniruyuschie ting her tone, and tak um, sozertsayuschiy properties of numbers and golos, proiznosyaschiy letter Sh soznaniem of Her znacheniya, vyzyvayut force, which is reflected in vseh treh mirah. //Takim obrazom the letter A, which corresponds to the unity of the divine vyrazhaet mire: the Absolute Being, from which all beings proiskhodyat; unto mire mind: unity - istochnik sintez and chisel; unto mire Physics: man top zemnyh suschestv, moguschago due rasshireniyu svoih abilities to climb unto kontsentricheskiya areas Bezkonechnago. //First SIMVOL at egiptyan nosil izobrazhenie ierofanta unto belom oblachenii scepter unto the hand, with gold crown on his head. Oblachenie white means purity, skipetr - authority; gold crown - svet universe "[132, c.111] with the opinion E.Shyure can accept when reading in the mire modernize the physical: the letter" A "corresponding to one, expresses in the physical world Observer - top of everything that is likely due to the breadth of their abilities, self-development indefinitely. could agree with the fact that the symbol was a light observation of the universe - overbearing ierofant in pure white robes. replacement base concepts "man" on the concept of "observer" were written in the last chapter, "The essence of the day" sub-text "Geniuses of consciousness." It means surveillance camera model <=> Display in detail the nature of the phenomenon of introspection.
   In the present context it is more convenient to call introspection natural phenomenon "Observation". It is this primary, but the logic of the people do not accept the concept of "seeing" without the approval of the existence of the Observer. In fact, a natural phenomenon "Observation" is an affirmation of the existence of a pair of subject-object. It is important to note that from a philosophical point of view, "Observation" - is to identify the object activity of the subject matter of the detection method. The physical phenomenon of in the form of the principle of "Observer" reason we denote the number "one" with the divine voice to the letter "A".

Samvel, as you can see, the Assumption described the transformation of himself in the Observer.
Turning to find images that replace the letters of the alphabet, and write an essay explaining, I sometimes omit the inclusion of private, recorded in his work "Evolution and right." Your, Samvel, quoting Assumption found such a case. Introspection - a special case of the natural principle of "Observation". Inordinately grateful to you.


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