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artcol 08.02.2010 15:27

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 898852)
I was told that the U.S. took place in China as a "beautiful country".

Well, mb. Although it is unlikely the Chinese could not name the United States. I look for - mb find the source, the most interesting.

Кирилл Сызранский 08.02.2010 15:29

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 898832)
The last precedent - p Rechnik

Town Rechnik-holiday village, whose residents were unable to privatize land and buildings. "Dacha amnesty", according to Moscow officials, did not extend to their domain.
"boatman" are to blame, it was necessary not to pull the "bull by the tail," and immediately privatize only just begun when the law on "dacha amnesty" (Federal Law of 30.06.2006 № 93-FZ "On Amendments to Some Legislative Acts of Russia on the issue of simplified registration of citizens rights to some objects of immovable property. "Entered into force on 1 September 2006)

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 898862)
Although it is unlikely the Chinese could not name the U.S..

But why?
Every Chinese wants to go to the United States.

:D

artcol 08.02.2010 15:37

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 898852)
I was told that the U.S. took place in China as a "beautiful country".

Aha, I found ....
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 Thus, China - center. Further from the center is located on the outskirts of inner circle of countries who have found in the Chinese hieroglyphic names of obvious symbolic meaning. Below I give a detailed commentary halo hieroglyphic meanings of symbols used in the Chinese names of the world in accordance with the meanings in dictionaries [ "Kangxi", "Qi Hai and edited by IM Oshanina].
     The left of center (if a face to the south) are "Country of the Rising Sun" (Mrs. Ben - Japan) and South Korea, "(chao-hsien - Korea).
     At the height of the sun is shining over his own "Middle Kingdom" (chung th - China). High heat and light goes abroad the middle of "Land of the Extreme South" (Yue nan, formerly an nan - Vietnam), and "Blossoming [affluent] State" (tai th - Thailand).
     Followed by: "Long-distance ownership" (mian dian - Burma). "The State of heavenly faith" [Buddhism, dissolved in a sincere, natural folk beliefs of Hinduism] (Tianzhu th - India). And "Western a storehouse of" [true stored intact, spiritual values] (si Tsang - Tibet).
     In the north-west of the "Middle State" covered up "the western boundary (siui - Turkestan), which is now called" New boundary "(Xinjiang).
     And on the north is the "old country setting dawn of the Moon," "Dark old man" (Myung gu - Mongolia).
     For regions of the country near to the center of the circle is located farthest edge of the world population is already very center of alien peoples. Among these peoples the title of the state (go) with the semantic and fixed hieroglyphically designation awarded only five great powers.
     To the left of center - arrived in China from the Sea "foreign devils" (yanguy), they also "devils from the edge" (Veiga). In the hieroglyphic symbols of a common-sense picture of the West (foreign devils from the edge of the world) have erudite Chinese, apparently, looks like. From the onset of the individual selected for intelligence and energy of male (John go, "State of the outstanding talent" - England). Through organize your personal needs written law (fa go, "State of the logic of the law" - France) and the good order of the moral influence of personal example (te th "State a moral example" - Germany). To flourish in a beautiful, hasty, tasty country of emigrants (mei th, "perfect state" - the U.S.).
     By the way, the Iberian civilization, colonized the whole of South and Central America, however, are not awarded to the Chinese title of Kuo. However, Portugal has created in the Chinese southern colony of Macao for three centuries before the British Hong Kong, described as literally "Land of connoisseurs of wine" (putaoya), and it corresponds to reality. This specific meaning to the names of places overseas Chinese in Portugal hierarchical system of the world immediately after the symbolic meanings of State, awarded the title of Kuo.
     To the right of center on the far outskirts of the land people live under the general title of "Treatment of itself" (huytszu - Muslims) and "The State of surprises [delay and instantaneous change]" (E st - Russia).
     All other nations prohibitive title "first" (the State) or a meaningful and understandable for the Chinese names of their countries "do not deserve, and that is why the sound meaningless transcription. With the loss of the historic grandeur of the meaning of the name and title of Kuo in the twentieth century, lost its first India, and after 1991 - and the "new Russia".
     But now Goh was awarded the title of Japan (at the gate of the Japanese Embassy in Beijing hieroglyphs inscribed "Mrs. Ben th) and South Korea (with 90-ies it was designated an ancient hieroglyphic name" Han first, according to the country by the Chinese during the First Marine Expedition Chin Shih Huang Ti). Schematic picture of the world in Chinese can be drawn as follows (see Figure 1).
     As can be seen, the geography is not simply "turn over" familiar to us the projection surface of the Earth "by Mercator - it is qualitatively different from them is the presence of a central point of reference, the presence of" Middle Kingdom "Zhong Guo, rather than the central axis between the two poles of the conventional world : the north and south - according to the archetype of "the Earth's rotation" only conditionally and temporarily passing through the "zero" Greenwich meridian.
     That is, world map in Chinese does not imply the existence of "bipolar" or, especially, "multipolar" world. And China is in her favor was not a "shining city on a hill," as imagined incarnation of "American Dream" President Reagan, not even "sea absorbs all of the river - it the ideal function is different. This is a kind of "center of gravity" with respect to which must be balanced against all the suburbs. Indeed, in the Chinese understanding of the right, traditional, totalitarian East (billion total population of Russia and the Muslim world) is balanced by the "golden billion" left-invariant, the liberal West. There are other space-time "axis of balance", passing through China, and bearing the line "a geopolitical sense." However, it can not be understood outside of time, as it treats the Chinese tradition.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 898872)
But why?
Every Chinese wants to go to the United States.

:D

But then to come back.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 898872)
Town Rechnik-holiday village, whose residents were unable to privatize land and buildings. "Dacha amnesty", according to Moscow officials, did not extend to their domain.
These "boatman" are to blame, it was necessary not to pull the "bull by the tail," and immediately privatize only just begun when the law on "dacha amnesty" (Federal Law of 30.06.2006 № 93-FZ "On Amendments to Some legislative acts of Russia on the issue of simplified registration of citizens rights to some objects of immovable property. "Entered into force on 1 September 2006)

Do not give privatize mb. Result is important. And in general: the power in Russia - above the law (after the 17-year).

iside 08.02.2010 16:12

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 898382)
Vyacheslav, IMHO, in Europe, prices are lower because more traffic is usually the market w

Fed, is a promising business. And for the artists is a plus, not minus.
For poster printing is not one, but the product remains in the hands of the artist. T e income without selling the painting.
And that all will buy their own posters of Monet and Picasso have nothing to fear --
people are buying for their taste, and many of the samovar with drying attractive.
And the artist will have more time to work on one picture.

What a nightmare logic you comrade Iksigon!

Seriy 08.02.2010 16:20

Yes, many people began to call me Iksigonom. Hence, re-branding was successful. And some who doubted ....

Кирилл Сызранский 08.02.2010 16:24

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 898902)
not allowed to privatize, MB. Result is important. And in general: the power in Russia - above the law (after the 17-year).

For example, the situation "Rechnik" still in the process.
Will all end, is not yet clear.
See.
I agree, "the result is important, but it is not.

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Well, if you remind yourself that:
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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 899012)
artist Ixygon - http://www.ixygon.com

:D

Seriy 08.02.2010 16:40

one thing to remind, and another when the people themselves so you call.

AlexanderG 08.02.2010 16:48

Sic transit gloria mundi :)

mihailovoh 09.02.2010 09:15

Cyril Syzransky,
  You look at what prices they sold the heirs of the province of Gorelova.Mazel.Ya Titov, etc. ..
With all due respect to you. Let me assert my mnenie.raboty artists from the provinces are not represented at all in Moscow (until suddenly they started to fashion). But given the percentage of sales in 2009. You can talk about. That they do not only at home on rynke.Pokupayut local collectors and fans within their physical capabilities. a=10tr in the province is the monthly salary of the average Russians. and the lack auktsionov.galerey (except antique shops, and commission store shirpotvebe) leaves its mark.
I govoryu.chto very rarely (and what is served in Moskve.za what is bought in Rostov?) Don-Belmasova.Markina.Timofeeva.Sporyhina.Lenya and so on.
And this is decent artistic traditions of the Don and bad art muzeyah.publikatsii catalogs and scientific works.

Кирилл Сызранский 09.02.2010 09:57

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Сообщение от mihailovoh (Сообщение 900632)
the heirs of the province of Gorelova

Heir Gorelova lives in Moscow, Prospekt Mira.

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mihailovoh, here on the forum there are dealers in the province. Ask them whether it is possible to buy their edges painting x /m interior size of a local artist with a rank of 10 tons rubles.
About wages in the province, I know everything, I do not have to persuade the live on the money.
And. Povintsialnye artists represented in Moscow. Vladimir School, for example, a number of artists of Siberia, the Volga, the Russian North ...


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