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Балагур 28.01.2013 10:12

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Сообщение от sdk321 (Сообщение 2441201)
If the union of artists still deprive Cantor studio or in the country, he will not return. "Other places in Moscow and in Russia I have not," - concludes the artist .

Pure speculation ! Workshop will take away - not coming back, leave - will be back . Well, what is it like ? Could in that time to get an apartment in Moscow . Lazy and freeloader, I see. IMHO.

Vladimir 28.01.2013 12:54

Due to the resonant themes - this latest information from the Ministry of Agriculture here:

http://www.facebook.com/press.msh/posts/256703664463085

Write:

WORKSHOP ON Maxim Kantor

Using the unreliability and falsity information from unkindly disposed to the Moscow Union of Artists of people known Moscow artist Maxim Kantor published on his page in Fecebook information discrediting the Moscow Union of Artists. No meetings of the Section of Painting at weaning workshop at Maxim Kantor was not.
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Artist Cantor had been warned about the debt for utility payments in the amount of 60 thousand rubles., And his friends are in Russia, have paid the debt. The question was closed. We regret that this situation in the media had overblown hysteria about weaning workshop.
For creative studio (and the responsibility of the Moscow Union of Artists, which comprises 6.5 thousand masters of different creative disciplines, there are about 2800 shops) need time to pay all artists, regardless of rank and fame. The impression is that this scandal, bloated from scratch, Maxim Kantor wants to draw attention to his personality.

Chairman of the Moscow Union of Artists, VA Glukhov


Yet again, life teaches us not to start a discussion before the first news received denials :(>

Seriy 28.01.2013 13:02

Vladimir, why not? From the very beginning it was clear that Mr. Cantor wants popiaritsya to complete, why should he deny this ? But fate - villain. Public opinion even on Echo of Moscow has turned against the snobbery of the artist, so that the overall result , IMHO, for the image of the artist is no. At the same time , the hot head with delusional statements , quoted in Eugene , also stung. You have to be careful with PR , teaches the case.

iosif 28.01.2013 13:31

I doubt you want Cantor as PR.
He's okay with PR, as with fame, and with the price of his work.
Although, of course, have to pay for communal time.
But then again, I doubt that all the fuss is gone because of the communal.

Seriy 28.01.2013 13:47

iosif, well, now, it is clear that the so-PR nobody wants.
May be more complicated, you're right, but we have to admit that the one who started the game, Mr. Kantor defeated easily, and now all the shit, and the Ministry of Agriculture takes the stage in a white coat.

Pavel 28.01.2013 14:30

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 2442901)
Due to the resonant themes - this latest information from the Ministry of Agriculture here:

http://www.facebook.com/press.msh/posts/256703664463085

Write:

WORKSHOP ON Maxim Kantor

Using the unreliability and falsity information from unkindly disposed to the Moscow Union of Artists of people known Moscow artist Maxim Kantor published on his page in Fecebook information discrediting the Moscow Union of Artists. No meetings of the Section of Painting at weaning workshop at Maxim Kantor was not.
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Artist Cantor had been warned about the debt for utility payments in the amount of 60 thousand rubles., And his friends are in Russia, have paid the debt. The question was closed. We regret that this situation in the media had overblown hysteria about weaning workshop.
For creative studio (and the responsibility of the Moscow Union of Artists, which comprises 6.5 thousand masters of different creative disciplines, there are about 2800 shops) need time to pay all artists, regardless of rank and fame. The impression is that this scandal, bloated from scratch, Maxim Kantor wants to draw attention to his personality.

Chairman of the Moscow Union of Artists, VA Glukhov


Yet again, life teaches us not to start a discussion before the first news received denials :(>

I know PF Nikonov, honest man. If this conversation has gone so dopeklo. In USDA Creepy deficit workshops, and many workshops over the years with there do not appear at all ...

Евгений 28.01.2013 20:21

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Сообщение от Vladimir; 2442901"
Once again life teaches us not to start a discussion before the first news received denials

Vladimir, you're right, it is necessary to discuss as soon as the artist asked for help ..

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Сообщение от iosif; 2443041"
But then again, I doubt that all the fuss is gone because of the communal.

All right, ..... Artists Union went back down and left Maxim Kantor his studio ...
Board of the Moscow Union of Artists (MOSH) after being in Germany, the famous artist and writer Maxim Kantor publicly reported attempts to deprive him of his Moscow studio, said that the problem is the debt and after the workshop will repay him ....
"Workshop is listed for him, no it was not passed, no one takes away. Was payable 60,000 rubles, and contacted him, that he repaid her," - said the agency assistant chairman of the Moscow Union of Radoslav limbs.
According to her, the repayment of debt "has already occurred or is about to happen."
She said that the workshop is leased under a lease agreement MOSH in Moscow, so the debt was "unacceptable." "We have a condition of the city - if the debt hanging, is a workshop to be selected. That's it, and no sensation is not here" - said the representative of the Moscow Union of Artists.
 http://www.newsru.com/cinema/28jan20...tor_print.html
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Probably not all that easy over ... But once again wish luck artist and writer Maxim Kantor ..

inega 28.01.2013 20:57

Last
SESSION BLACK MAGIC with subsequent unmasking

(Refutation scandal)

The situation with my studio, it seems settled.
I spoke on the phone with and caring Chairman of Union of Artists, Victor Glukhov - he reacted to my story with attention. Namely protection Viktor Aleksandrovich helped resolve the issue.
I'm really grateful to Viktor.

Moscow Union of Artists of experiencing real difficulties, solving many issues including the material nature. Any lining possible. There is an inaccuracy tenants artists. For example, in my studio there dept rent for six months - that debts paid, and such debts arise for many tenants, especially if, like me, rent the room for 34x years. Long term, it happens and nevovremya vnesesh rent.

Today, I explain that the only reason for all this scandal - was my unpaid rent, and my response has been inadequate.
I am ashamed.
And I may have tripped leadership of the Union in connection with the cause, based on - my negligence.
I am truly sorry about that. I apologize to the Union of Artists.

True, its debt for the lease I made BEFORE the Board meeting where the question of my studio, but today I was told that such a meeting and was not in the nature.
All that I imagined. Artists of a sick imagination.

I am sincerely grateful to Viktor Glukhov. And I say this without irony.
Below - write a refutation of their notes.
They may be a shadow of irony there.

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I was told that the people who told me about the board meeting, were lying. It turns out no one raised the issue that if I rent the studio - it was not simple.
However, I was told that the issue raised before the commission painter Nikonov, saying that he knows that I hand over the shop tenants - but now I realize that this is my speculation.
I was told what was the reaction of the audience - and that it is said in my address, but for now I know that is a lie!
They also found that no one claimed that he called me on the phone, and I refused to shop - and this too is a fabrication.
And I am naive to believe in fables.
It turns out that even the speech did not go on to collect the commission and open the door. And it was not there.
It is true that different people called me in a panic and asked me to come to Moscow with a lawyer, but perhaps they were panic-mongers and liars.
True, after the meeting of the Board of my friends called Nikonov home and he answered that I hand over the shop, and it is supposedly known. And, as I was told, it was said that "all these unknown tired" - was meant Ernst Neizvestny and the type of artist living in two countries. But most of all, and this is also true and provocation.
There is misinformation!
So it happens that the case of mass hallucination.
There was nothing at all - no one ever said I was his studio rent tenants, and no one claimed that I gave up the studio, no one said it called to me, and a collection of speeches, not to worry Nikonov - there was nothing, it just my paranoia. Or maybe it was the voice of the sky.
Perhaps people, tells me the details of the Board meetings were delirious or just wanted me to lie.
And I, as it turns out, would thus draw attention to the person.

In my defense, wrote thousands of people - thanks, in my defense, wrote the newspaper - thanks to them.
Now it turned out that the reason my unpaid rent (paid well before the meeting, which was not in nature).
I in no way want to undermine the reputation of the Union of Artists and admit all this is true. I hope that just as easily resolved misunderstandings with other artists who have lost their shops, and still do not know what it is they dream.
As for me personally, I would like to return to work, from which I was torn by three days lying and deceitful informants.



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Кирилл Сызранский 07.02.2013 23:41

Theme was "Ah yes, well, yes, well, yes-nai" ...
 
- I apologize - interrupted Shvonder - this is about the dining room and an observation we have come to talk. The general meeting requests that you voluntarily , in order of labor discipline, refuse room. Messes no one else in Moscow.
- Even Isadora Duncan - loudly shouted a woman .
( a ) :D>

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Сообщение от Seriy; 2442631"
A workshop popolzuyut artists who live in the same unwashed Russia and send Cantor fervent cheers ...

rubbing their hands ... and mockingly pohihikivayut on his own brother -artist - " as his example, in Germany , it is , you see, live , bourgeois "!. :rolleyes:>

No, I know that a number of artists - this is a terrarium, Snake , but something local forums " hudozhnichki " to climb, it would be better to draw learned. :)>


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