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K-Maler 03.08.2011 14:41

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Сообщение от Sergei burly ; 1729221"
Why in this situation do not position yourself as a stamp ?
Esp if someone spins . Unfold as the " arts

I made the observation that such a practice misleads the public: people want to buy something , but looking at the price (which for the uninitiated means only quality), start to think that good work can only be bought for big money , that is, their choice is no longer trusted. This fact spoils the development of the market much longer than it might seem at first glance.

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Сообщение от Konstantin; 1729253"
What the artist Attach an image , then there will be differing opinions . And so ...
Discuss the figure of 500 000 rubles. Is much or little - no one will .

Well , I want to , criticized , to show the delicacy ... I think ...
For serious gallery in Moscow alone , the price , perhaps, humdrum ...
But in St. Petersburg is not so.

Seriy 03.08.2011 18:48

Cyril Syzran, thank you very much for the info, I'll go look for fall.

Сергей Дородный 05.08.2011 11:02

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 1729443)
I shall only add that the 500 thousand, about 20 tons of dollars - the normal gallery price for good work by famous contemporary artists. The first row. With this budget, you can collect museum-quality things. If so ask for a little-known artist, it's weird.

I, to his great regret, the use of "normal" terms in relation to today's Russia (2011, not 2008) neantikvarnomu art market seems to be too optimistic.
"Normal price", "good job" - the terms of a developed market with fierce competition, traditions, and strong demand.
I went once on the promenade along the Central House of Artists Art Market and heard the sighs of paintings seller:
" Oh, contingent went wrong! Those who have bought a couple of years ago, all piled up abroad. "
And it is - on the waterfront!
Now completely different buyers (in weight) - "new bureaucrats." Ready to hang "in the room," something original.
The market has changed a couple of years. " Older sellers " and " first-time buyers " - this is new the market.
"The second series of" elite has changed almost completely, and they are still about 10 years (or ever?) Until the sixties, Purygin, Rabin, etc.
And here it is "fast-made" (as K-Maler the situation depicted) and can buy. After all, they are the "known present-day artists" as a rule.
Have you noticed how changed musical landscape for a couple of years?
I think that the "iconic Olympus" You can build a new person now. Such is the public-with.

 (I have nothing against contemporary forms of expression, like Koons. It is about quality, according to the artist and his price-fame)

K-Maler 05.08.2011 13:55

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Сообщение от Sergei burly; 1732821"
I was walking once on the promenade along the Central House of Artists Art Market and heard the sighs of paintings seller:
"Eh, the force has gone wrong! Those who have bought a couple of years ago, overseas all piled up."
And it is - on the waterfront!
Now completely different buyers (in weight) - "new bureaucrats." Ready to hang "in the room," something original.

Good observation. I often go to friends in the "glass" (trade artistic gallery courtyard next to the parlor). There's glass cubicle exhibition, which allow you to show something more decent ... Not too brisk, but the trade goes, every day someone is selling something, all the rent fight off ...
So there and see who the buyer if "this is not a street." Buy for gifts, for the memory (tourists), interior (something big), case (hunting), nostalgic (old-Petersburg). Flowers, of course, the scenery ... Posters also bought, but only very interesting, mostly flowers. Very original works hang a little longer, but also sell ... Ordering portraits ... Prices sane. The artist, who was trying to show himself on the big "spin" through price 500 000r. there selling small works on 5000r (with a wrap). Manner exactly similar to the discussion (in another post) Frenchman. And the average work he is just 45 000r. (And "negotiating is possible").

Vladimir 06.08.2011 00:16

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 1732941)
And the average work he is just 45 000r.
(And "negotiating is possible ").

The budget is not big, but very convenient opportunity to even normal.
You can buy graphics seventies (and sometimes the painting).
In general, if you hold back emotions, not in a hurry, you can spend usefully.


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