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Valerit 19.04.2013 17:28

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Hollandup 19.04.2013 17:31

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Магнолия 19.04.2013 18:03

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The comments were more about icons .. "Space icons - dimensionally ... and infinitely "

About the Icons ... In any comments? Where? Explain, please.

As for the space , in general, that , in my opinion , it would be strange for people to stay as long as they do not learn well the fourth dimension ( curvature ), and the system of " the <=> impact."
The development of three-dimensional rectilinear allowed artists to take advantage of the direct and inverse perspective. Direct - we look at the world ; reverse - The world is watching us . I think the curvature properties conceal their not very involved ability to influence the perception of space and form . There is a faint hint of architecture.

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Focusing on esoteric inaccessible fragments of the whole, I am of the version of the death (possibly due to infection), a highly advanced civilization, pitiful remnants of which became the germs of our culture.
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Hollandup 19.04.2013 20:37

[QUOTE=Magnolia; 2564031] About the Icons ... In any comments? Where? Please explain.

As for the space, in general, that, in my opinion, it would be strange for people to stay as long as they do not learn well the fourth dimension (curvature), and the system of "the <=> impact."
The development of three-dimensional rectilinear allowed artists to take advantage of the direct and inverse perspective. Direct - we look at the world; reverse - The world is watching us. I think the curvature properties conceal their not very involved ability to influence the perception of space and form. There is a faint hint of architecture.



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The comments about the "plane" (two dimensional) pictures (the picture is an example of B. Yushkevich), apart from the following sentence about icons that their space is two-dimensional (like comparison). I wonder, is there really a relationship ..

Yes, it's interesting to hear your opinion ... I want to still understand what he meant, that Sorokin, when he said that "in a stream of high-energy space becomes two-dimensional (one of the spatial coordinates disappears). Such a hypothesis is possible and confirms the desire of the artist (unconsciously ) repeat on the picture plane interaction energy of the earth and the volume flow of cosmic energy ".. And of course, I want to at least come closer to understanding why the perception of painting all different, and what does it depend .. One person reads the codes of blending layers of paint on canvas, color and form and the other is completely inaccessible. Why is it so ..

Самвел 19.04.2013 23:46

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That's when I imbued with respect to the recording of the Assumption: "If the ancient knowledge survived, if any, knowledge that is different from our science and philosophy, or even surpassing it, why is it so carefully hidden, Why did not the common property?

This was the question posed by Peter Uspensky George Gurdjieff. I brought it to my in the subject of Gurdjieff. Here otvet.Gurdzhiev: Knowledge of the materiality
Posted in Rigel El Wed 01/25/2012 - 9:15
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"During a conversation with Gurdjieff in our group - which has already become transformed into permanent - I asked:

- If the ancient knowledge survived, if any, knowledge that is different from our science and philosophy, or even surpassing it, why is it so carefully hidden, why did not the common property? Why do people with this knowledge, do not want to make it passed into the mainstream of life for the sake of a better, more successful fight against deception, evil and ignorance?

Probably, this question arises in every person who first meets with the ideas of esotericism.

- To this there are two answers - Gurdjieff said. - First of all, this knowledge is not hidden, and secondly, by its very nature it can not be shared. First, we consider the second of these provisions. And then I'll show you that knowledge (he emphasized the word) is much more accessible to those who are able to learn it than is generally believed, the trouble is that people do not want to or knowledge of, or is unable to accept it.
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"But first you need to understand the other, that is why knowledge can not belong to all, can not even belong to many.'s The law. You do not understand it because you do not understand that knowledge, like everything else in the world, financially. Materially It and this means that it has all the hallmarks of materiality. One of the main features of materiality - is that matter is always a limit, ie, the amount of matter in a given place and under these conditions is limited. Even the desert sand and sea water is a specific, unchanging amount of material particles. So if knowledge is material, this means that in a given place at a given time there is a certain amount of it. could say that for a certain period of time, say, for a century, mankind has before a certain amount of knowledge. But even from observations we know that matter knowledge has completely different qualities depending on whether it is taken in small or large quantities. received in a large amount in the place of, say, one person knowing gives excellent results, but taken in small quantities, that every man of a large number of people, or it "does not give any results, or, contrary to expectations, it may even bring negative results. Thus, if a certain amount of knowledge spread among millions of people, each individual will receive very little, and a small amount of knowledge will not change anything either in his life or in his understanding of things. And no matter how many people received a small amount of knowledge in their lives will not change anything, unless it may be, will become more difficult.

"And if, on the contrary, a large amount of knowledge to focus on a small number of people, then knowledge will give very significant results. From this point of view, is much more favorable to the knowledge stored among a narrow circle of people, not the masses would dissipate.

"If we take a certain amount of gold and decide to gild a lot of things we need to know or calculate precisely how many items it can be covered with gold. If we try to gild the greater number of them, they were covered with gold uneven spots, and will look much worse than subjects who did not were gilded. Actually, we're just losing our gold.

"The distribution of knowledge is based on exactly the same principle. If knowledge is given to all, no one gets. If it persists among the few, everyone will get so many that it would be sufficient not only to preserve but also to the resulting increase.

"At first glance, this theory seems unfair, because the position of those who, so to speak, denied knowledge of others to get the most of it, it seems very sad and undeservedly more difficult than it should be. Actually, however, the circumstances are not are, in the distribution of knowledge is not the slightest injustice.

"In fact, the vast majority of people do not want any knowledge, they abandon their share and do not take even that part of it which falls to them in the general distribution for the needs of daily life. This is especially true in times of mass madness, such as war, revolutions and the like, when people seem to lose even what little grain of common sense, which they possessed, and turn into a perfect machine, huge masses of surrendering to total destruction, that is, losing even the instinct of self-preservation. Consequently, the huge amount of knowledge remain, so to speak, unused and can be shared among those who understand their value.

"There is nothing unfair because those who receive the knowledge that does not assign anything foreign, do not deprive others of anything there. They take only what is rejected by others as useless, that would still be lost if they do not take.

"The gathering of knowledge by some people due to the fact that other people reject this knowledge.

"In human life there are times when the masses of the people are beginning to irreparably destroy and destroy everything that was created over centuries and millennia of culture. These periods are, in general, coincide with the beginning of the decline of culture and civilization, such periods of mass madness, often coinciding with geological disasters, climate change, and similar phenomena of planetary character, release a huge amount of knowledge. This, in turn, makes it necessary to work on the collection of knowledge that otherwise would be lost. Thus, the work of collecting the scattered matter of knowledge often coincides with the beginning of the destruction and ruin crops and civilizations.

"This aspect of the question is clear. Crowd does not want the knowledge and not seeking it, and its leaders in their own interests are trying to strengthen its fear of anything new and unknown, her dislike of the new. Slavery in which mankind lives is based on that fear. Hard even imagine the horror of this slavery. We do not realize that they are losing people. But in order to understand the cause of slavery, it is enough to see how people live, what is the purpose of their existence, the object of desires, passions and aspirations, what they dream about what they say, what are and what are worshiped. Consider that spends money on a modern civilized humanity, even leaving aside the war; think that requires the highest costs, which brings together the biggest crowds. If we for a moment reflect on this question we will see that humanity in its current state, with those interests which it lives, can not expect anything more than what it has. But, as I said, the way things were and could not. If knowledge is to be divided among all, each will receive so little that remains as a fool, what was. However, due to the fact that knowledge want to have very few people - taking his get, say, each side - and the opportunity to acquire become more reasonable. All may not be reasonable, even if it wanted to, and. And if they really are reasonable, it would not help the cause. There is a general equilibrium which can not be broken.

"That is one aspect. Another, as I said, is that no one and did not hide, there is no mystery. But the acquisition or transfer of real knowledge requires a great deal of work and effort on the part of the person who receives and on the part of the person who gives. And those who have knowledge, do everything they can to pass and give it to the largest possible number of people to facilitate their approach to knowledge and the training itself to the perception of truth. But no one can transfer the power of knowledge, and as I said, open-minded consideration of the life of the average man, aware of the fact that it fills the day with things that interest him, this very minute show legitimate to blame the people who own the knowledge that they hide it not wishing to transmit to the people, do not want to teach others what they know themselves.

"Anyone who wants to gain knowledge, he should take the first effort to find its source and closer to it, and by using the instructions that are given to all, but which people generally do not want to see and recognize. Knowledge can not come to people of course, if they prove effort on their part. they understand it, when it comes to the knowledge of the ordinary, but in the case of great knowledge, if any, admit its existence, they prefer to expect chegoto quite different. Everyone knows that if a person wants, for example, to learn the Chinese language, it will take several years of hard work, everyone knows that mastering the fundamentals of medicine to five years, and for the study of music or painting twice the size. Yet there are theories that claim that knowledge can come to man without much effort on his part that he can get it even in a dream. mere existence of these theories explains why knowledge can not come to the people. At the same time it is important to understand that independent human effort to reach what something in this direction can not give results. person acquires knowledge only with those who have it - it is necessary to understand from the beginning. need to learn from someone who knows. "



(Excerpt from the book of the Assumption PD "In Search of the Miraculous")

Магнолия 19.04.2013 23:46

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Yeah, it's interesting to hear your opinion ...

1. On the system of "space <=> strength", in particular the change of dimension.
Speculatively apply an external force to the corner of the square. Get the rhombus. Continue to squeeze the diamond. The inner plane disappears. So force action two-dimensional space (the plane) was transformed into a one-dimensional (line). This is a very obvious example. It should be a little more stretch of the imagination to imagine such a transformation of the three-dimensional cube in a two-dimensional square.
Yes, the power and the dimension of the space related. V. Yushkevich wanted to show theoretically flattened earth space? In my opinion, everything else about the genetic aspiration to a flat image of the artist - speculation. The forces of cosmic radiation enough, perhaps, to the day-night destructuring of pictures in the brain when we are not immune from the abyss of space thickness of the world (On the Nature of the living: mechanisms and meaning. M. Ichas. Transl. From English. - Verlag, 1994. - 496. book by the famous American biologist and popularizer of science)

2. read about different audio and visual properties of the codes of the world.
Now fairly well studied functionality of the various components of the human brain. Naturally, as there is absolutely identical rose bushes, just not exactly the same, and brains. Consequently, someone better perception of audio-logic code, and someone visuals. Who is given by nature. But learning does not need to be discounted. (Beauty and brains. Biological aspects of aesthetics. Translated from English. /Edited I.Renchlera, B.Hertsberger, D.Epstayna. - Verlag, 1995. - 335 p., Ill.)

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Thank you very much, Samvel. I read this text in your subject of Gurdjieff. Similar views were in "Soviet" Temple of the early twentieth century.

Магнолия 20.04.2013 16:00

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black holes and white spots'll do at night.

Hollandup, Thank you for the link to Interactive TV channel "Culture", but still it was necessary to specify that the yesterday You watched the transfer of of 31.01.2013 . Found a method of "spear."

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Yeah, it's interesting to hear your opinion ...

I am a very cautious attitude to brief the popularization of knowledge. Especially from the field of elementary particle physics. This kind of "razvlekuha" to the public. The task - to throw temku for after-dinner conversation, someone was able to appear "egghead" background "fools."
I cut ear, when the TV program scientist allegedly sagely says that molecular cloud hangs over the black hole. I remember the mass hysteria 70-80s over the corpses of the aliens, and sold out on the Paid lectures Knowledge Society, which embarrassed Ph.D. surprised interest in metrology or something similar.
Having received the first degree with a specialization in "physical and chemical processes of research," I respect to a set of facts and a special passion for systematization enough of the facts, that is, to study the properties of the system. Later, asked me a liberal education goal - to answer the questions: "Why is it provides an understanding?", "Why change only one letter changes the meaning of the word radical (such as Darkness /Marriage), and what the purpose of the rhyme?" etc. The discovery, or rather the restoration, the alphabetic system led me to Artinvestment to find other than their character, encoding eons. I do not agree on the television show because the TV story about the facts - that the show beads instead of the finished product.

K-Maler 21.04.2013 02:19

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Focusing on esoteric inaccessible fragments of the whole, I am of the version of the death (possibly due to infection ), a highly advanced civilization , pitiful remnants of which became the germs of our culture. Slowly run wild!

On the Internet published opening (hopefully not a duck ), which are found in this infinite and incomprehensible cosmos (Cosmos - means " decorated " ) from two water planets , ie completely out of the water . If this is true, it's a great event .

Hollandup 21.04.2013 14:48

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Hollandup, Thank you for the link to Interactive TV channel "Culture", but still it was necessary to specify that the yesterday You watched the transfer of on 31.01.2013 . Found a method of "spear."



I am a very cautious attitude to brief the popularization of knowledge. Especially from the field of elementary particle physics. This kind of "razvlekuha" to the public. The task - to throw temku for after-dinner conversation, someone was able to appear "egghead" background "fools."
I cut ear, when the TV program scientist allegedly sagely says that molecular cloud hangs over the black hole. I remember the mass hysteria 70-80s over the corpses of the aliens, and sold out on the Paid lectures Knowledge Society, which embarrassed Ph.D. surprised interest in metrology or something similar.
Having received the first degree with a specialization in "physical and chemical processes of research," I respect to a set of facts and a special passion for systematization enough of the facts, that is, to study the properties of the system. Later, asked me a liberal education goal - to answer the questions: "Why is it provides an understanding?", "Why change only one letter changes the meaning of the word radical (such as Darkness /Marriage), and what the purpose of the rhyme?" etc. The discovery, or rather the restoration, the alphabetic system led me to Artinvestment to find other than their character, encoding eons. I do not agree on the television show because the TV story about the facts - that the show beads instead of the finished product.


Very interested in this topic literal encoding, musical, mathematical, and as a form of shape and color. Is there a relationship ..
The subject of letters and the theme of the Word, you tie it or studying alone? Related Words many disputes and interpretations ((originally "Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ Λόγος, καὶ ὁ Λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν, καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος", "In the beginning was the Word - the first line of the book of the New Testament Gospel of John" " It was originally one who is called the Word. He was with God, and He was God "))

Магнолия 21.04.2013 20:15

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Very interested in this topic coding ........... Is there a relationship ..

The system consists of natural principles, otherwise called aeons. The system eons - is the chronology of the evolution of the properties of the periods, which, in all probability, was known educators Cyril and Methodius. Letters of the alphabet coded property evolution. Consequently, the properties of the evolution of the relationship is the relationship codes. Encoding can be different. By deciphering letter codes I encamp by the names of letters and the coordinates of the letters in the system.

The words are made up of elements of letters and phonemes molecules, most of which are two-and three-letter. Has its meaning and order of the letters in the phonemes.

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/pictur...ctureid=120521

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/pictur...ctureid=127141

Word formation in designating things are not so simple theme of trying to talk sensibly about it in the message.

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"In the beginning was the Word - the first line of the book of the New Testament Gospel of John," "originally was the one who called the Word. He was with God, and He was God"))

Evangelical saying John is the Word of communication "thought-image of the Word," in which the phonemes act as morphemes.


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