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Артём 26.04.2010 19:07

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy (Сообщение 1057462)
Every sixth-seventh!

It seemed more, well, okay. In India, there is still more severe people - is the Sith. Frankly, trying to understand Hinduism, I did not work, and the book did not help - the dark forest. Once I wanted to exchange the money to go to a museum, standing in front of the Sith (they are allowed to wear a melee weapon), he told me politely exchanging, and then said that I should say good for good and buy a pack of cards with his friend (a stall front was), I said that I do not want people just grabbed the sword, which he hung on the belt, but with such eyes - frantic. Well the police were there, they kept him, and I tried to explain to him that the cards I do not need. Scary people.

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Problems were to be gone. Even with the paper from the Ambassador in India, I have not sold a plane ticket. I was just lucky. Random people decided to sell tickets and stay in India and I bought a ticket. Second time lucky when the customs I was asked to documents on art: gold, stones and small sculptures, ie metal and bone, documents were also, like money, but drove.
From this it follows that:
1. All thoroughly think over, if decided to go to the east;
2. take with them everything that is connected with food: spoon, cup, plate, etc.;
3. Remember that physical preparation is required: no drinking, no smoking!;
4. talk to people most polite;
5. Do not answer his question - there will be trouble, and generally talk to those with whom you want to communicate;
6. do not drink the local water!;
7. make all kinds of vaccinations, just in case;
8. Languages spoken - English, they do not know what the Ukraine or Russia, for them we are still "Sovieticus";
9. plane ticket to take only the back and forth, you can stay there for long;
10.pri ailment immediately contact a doctor;
11.naslazhdaytes beauty, but remember the Customs Act.
The theme is not finished, was a caveat, it will be interesting to all. I think that even Pavel (missing in this thread) something, say yes!

Артём 27.04.2010 09:36

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The Himalayas, still, beautiful! Photos Ventsislava Simeon.

vyadem 27.04.2010 09:59

Artem, 7 photos simply no words!

Черномашенцев Владимир 27.04.2010 10:04

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy (Сообщение 1057462)
All? Every sixth-seventh! Enough? <!--~ A ~-->

It seemed curious that a random link. Smiled ...

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Сообщение от Artem (Сообщение 1057512)
From this it follows that:
1. All thoroughly think over, if decided to go to the east;
...
5. Do not answer his question - there will be trouble, and generally talk to those with whom you want to communicate;
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Are there any chance in life?

vyadem 27.04.2010 10:19

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Сообщение от Artem (Сообщение 1057362)
Strange, that is called a small number, only 14%. It may be that Muslims are more active ie more noticeable. Visually, think that all Muslims, with rare exception.
In Tibet, the Muslims there. There is enough of their religious branches - modern Lamaism, Bonpos and various of their merger.

It just so happened historically that India is very multireligious country. And after visiting the north and south - is 2 big differences.
14%of Muslims in the mainly gives the northern state of Jammu and Kashmir. There, almost every Muslim. So were constantly at war with Pakistan (the largest Muslim country) and even now there is unrest. There even military postyagivali from all over India on the grounds of "non-Muslim."

Admin 27.04.2010 11:30

But curiously, the language in which Hindus, Muslims read the Koran? Or they learn Arabic polls?

I know that here in Russia, many Muslims especially learning Arabic, even though its foundation to be able to read the Koran in the original. Well, at least to verses and suras say more or less approximate to the original.

Физик 27.04.2010 17:36

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Сообщение от Posav (Сообщение 1054942)
Simply amazing. Interested in everything concerning Tibet. Share your experiences.
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There is a book of modern French explorer Michel Pesselya "Journey to Tibet" and his own "Journey to the Mustang and Bhutan, a lot of interesting observations Europeans. And, also, there is translation of "Tibetan Book of the Dead" with some explanations for the Europeans ... many of them attracted by the philosophy of an unknown world. Artists, too, one picture in my album.

Артём 30.04.2010 09:40

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Сообщение от Admin (Сообщение 1058832)
But curiously, the language in which Hindus, Muslims read the Koran? Or they learn Arabic polls?

I do not know.

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Сообщение от physicist (Сообщение 1059572)
There translate Tibetan Book of the Dead "with some explanations for the Europeans ..

Dawasandup translated this book. He was a literate man, very kind of mountain people, Bhutanese and Sikkimese. He studied, worked as a translator for the British. This book can be read. What I mean is that not everything should be read.
I want to finish the theme, the ending is also quite good.
Upon arrival, I rushed to work. Eighteen months later was made the first exhibition in the gallery of CEP in Simferopol. Were invited Indian dancer (studied dance for many years in Kalkkute), music, television. All the same decided to do in Kiev. And in Kiev has passed all the wonderful, unique, it was strange that people who have taken the whole exercise, not trying to sell the painting. The next day I went to the Crimea and called in Kiev next week, to ask how things are moving. I was stunned saying that two days after the opening, my manager took all the pictures, he helped to put all pictures in the car and he left. As it turned out had gone forever. 42 pictures in dorogennyh frames, almost 2 years. Prolonged depression!
A few weeks went Dolgikh (artist) and said: "He's not only stole the paintings he has stolen our hope!" 10 artists have paid for their naivete and kindness, I was the last, convenient, on the road.
Some time later a man came and asked how long I'll be arriving in poor condition? I replied that I had nothing. He left money on the canvas, and paints. Six months later, I opened an exhibition in the gallery on Andriyivsky in Kiev. It was not 40 paintings, but 20 is something. Everything went well, the paintings had been sold and I went back to his normal state.
One was walking pace in the center of Prague and in the window I saw a picture Tibetan painting (of the first). Certainly came, talked to the owner and he said that his picture, and that in several galleries in Prague there are a few pictures. Naturally, I all met. All received very well, offering just the studio, home, work. That's so - every cloud has a silver lining!

Posav 30.04.2010 10:13

Artem,
strange ending turned out. And the police have you used?

Артём 30.04.2010 10:23

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Сообщение от Posav (Сообщение 1066932)
strange ending turned out. And the police have you used?

Try to forget everything and move on!

Posav 30.04.2010 10:33

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Сообщение от Artem (Сообщение 1066962)
Try to forget everything and move on!

Maybe was some agreement on promotion or sale of paintings? He could not just steal all the pictures?

vyadem 30.04.2010 10:41

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Сообщение от Artem (Сообщение 1066962)
tried to forget everything and move on!

real Tibetan wisdom !<!--~ 10 ->

Артём 30.04.2010 11:10

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Сообщение от Posav (Сообщение 1066992)
Can was some agreement on promotion or sale of paintings? He could not just steal all the pictures?

If there were, though some papers may I turned to the police. The man was able to trust to gather around him a lot of artists, and then ... This is in newspapers, magazines, but all in the past.

Черномашенцев Владимир 30.04.2010 11:12

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Сообщение от Artem (Сообщение 1066872)
... I was stunned saying that two days after the opening, my manager took all the pictures, he helped to put all pictures in the car and he left. As it turned out had gone forever. 42 pictures in dorogennyh frames, almost 2 years. Prolonged depression!
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One was walking pace in the center of Prague and in the window I saw a picture Tibetan painting (of the first). .... All very well received, offered once a workshop, home, work. That's so - every cloud has a silver lining!

From your story I experienced a sensation as if it were my pictures stolen. Of course, the depth of my feelings were much larger than your emotions, and lasted only several seconds. But those few seconds I was with you.

In what year did this happen? It seemed to me that such kidalovo was often in the early 90's, but since many artists have learned to good sense. They just do not work with strangers galleries, and even with some friends, too, is no longer working. Often I hear the phrase: "Better to sell the painting is cheaper than pay for the exhibition or the realization of the gallery."
I thought that since the crooks are dead.
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Once was a pleasure step on the center of Prague and in the window of one picture I saw an interesting picture. Examining Prague, I went to all the galleries in search of counter-art, but somehow I did not like the work of Czech artists. They mainly specialize in graphics, and art was quite mediocre. I walked more than a dozen galleries and shops until I found a picture that I wanted to buy. You can be surprised by my choice, but they were all written by our former compatriots: Russian, ukraitsami, Balts ... And then I bought a couple of dozen paintings and pastel sheets. It is no wonder that you all Prague gallery staff offered jobs and shelter! What will they sell to tourists without artists from ex-USSR?
   The largest work in a realistic style was about the size of a meter and is a kind of Prague signed name Filobok (Filobok). Galeristka told me in perfect Russian, which is an artist from the Ukraine.
No one remembers that name? I would be interested to know.

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Сообщение от Artem (Сообщение 1067022)
If there were, though some papers may I turned to the police. The man was able to trust to gather around him a lot of artists, and then ... This is in newspapers, magazines, but all in Past.

The papers are not needed. It's even better because of the civil court jurisdiction is transferred to the criminal jurisdiction and could be classified as fraud. Especially because there is a group of victims and witnesses of the mass. In such cases, I like to say: "The worse, the better!". But I know that has already passed a lot of time to start prosecuting fraud.

Peter 30.04.2010 11:27

Artem, but you could not voice the name of the person who did it to put it mildly unseemly business? Do you know our world is small ... That used in the future someone was hurt.


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