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Veronic 05.05.2009 17:25

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Сообщение от Art-lover (Сообщение 363656)

Actually, this whole sad and sticky erundovina ostensibly about art, interspersed with the Black Hundreds tsitatkami, preachy platitudes and free to all diagnoses and all - reading for the amateur.


Such an approach logically implies the following. Invented a special definition of art on the grounds of disability personality of the artist. The word "degenerate", mind you, is not a scientific concept (ie the notion of having a quantitative determination), and evaluative terms - like the word "idiot" or "goon". It gives everyone the opportunity to make it to the neighbors, according to their understanding. It is oriented not to cure, but in isolation, so do not use humanitarian psychology, but readily applied psychiatry for repressive regimes. Mr. dreams of becoming a psychologist, a psychiatrist in camp on a global scale?
Stake out the scope of its activities - identification degenerates among artists, art critics and art lovers, Dr. Nedogonov invites all to do groping boundaries between art and the present "degenerative."
Now consider his definition:

Art-lover, always a pleasure to read your thoughts and arguments in favor of art. But in this case, all the same want to support the view Nedogonova.
How can you express your thoughts against conceptual art, if it is literally filled the minds and space museums and private collections.
And if there are people who do not like it? Or should all the same to love him, even if the mind and the soul opposes? As they say, can abide together with any?

In conclusion, I want to show the pictures, which are also in the opinion of critics are works of art. Do you want us to be visited by a deep inner feelings at the sight of this?

Or else .... show these pictures to your children, let them get used to the small-to-high.

Photos taken from the Archive of Elijah Chichkan

Кирилл Сызранский 05.05.2009 17:39

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Сообщение от Veronic (Сообщение 364446)
But in this case, all the same want to support the view Nedogonova.

These "views" You want to support?
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Originally Posted by Nedogonov
... unhealthy, paranyalny passions ...
... dermo-containing allegations Degtyar ...
... dirty craft Hirst ...
... poured lousy, dirty, and unreasonable accusations ...
... bacillus rude people and became actively proliferate at the time (or near the time), when the voiced phrase "degenerate art"
... Degenerate, due to deficits in its development ... has infantile, one-sided and rigid mental organization, sluggish, cold heart. Mental activity it can manifest itself only in the form of hysterical psychopathy (O. Kulik, A. Brenner and others like them perverts).
... vicious, hate "International ..." and induced them to "degenerate art"
... "Conspiracy Judaizers"
... sinister Golem, homunculus, grown in the late XIX century, the Marxist-Trotskyist curly camarilla and now living preying on people's hearts, souls, minds
... the Protestant ethic, with the agility of a monkey drawing the spiritual values in the "metal" ...
... degenerates "to the streets" to take a crap in museums, public masturbate and fuck with animals ...
... hateful misanthropic, pat-psychological "creativity"
... At the international exhibitions, fairs and biennials are just degenerates "Russian Art"
... foul in public places
... breeds ... new degenerates
... participants thoroughly lay on opposite sides

Vlasta 05.05.2009 17:39

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Сообщение от Veronic (Сообщение 364446)
In conclusion, I want to show pictures, which are also in the opinion of critics are works of art. Do you want us to be visited by a deep inner feelings at the sight of this?

Veronic, the horror ... Experiences have visited, but not associated with a fine. And it can not be removed?

Veronic 05.05.2009 17:42

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Сообщение от Vlasta (Сообщение 364486)
Veronic, the horror ... Experiences have visited, but not associated with a fine. And it can not be removed?


And why it must be removed if it is High Art and was exhibited glaring KievGallery «L'Art to the public?
Chichkan will represent Ukraine at the Venice Art Biennale this year, by the way ....

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 364476)
These are the "views" you want to support?


Cyril and how to reach the common sense?

Кирилл Сызранский 05.05.2009 17:46

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Сообщение от Veronic (Сообщение 364506)
It's hanging in museums and art called !!!!!

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Сообщение от Veronic (Сообщение 364446)
How can you express your thoughts against conceptual art, if it is literally filled the minds and space museums and private collections.

"In museums? That is, in the plural? Have seen it in museums?
"In private collection"? Who has been where such have seen?
Veronic, You're even Hirst exhibition in Kiev did not go, but about "museums" are talking about ... :)

Vlasta 05.05.2009 17:47

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Сообщение от Veronic (Сообщение 364506)
But why this should be removed if it is High Art?

Let this High Art, but still disgusting. There are things much more pleasant.

Veronic 05.05.2009 17:48

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 364546)
"In museums? That is, in the plural? Have seen it in museums?
"In private collection"? Who has been where such have seen?
Veronic, You're even Hirst exhibition in Kiev did not go, but about "museums" are talking about ... :)


24 May 2006 in Kiev glaring Gallery «L'Art» on Andreevskom exhibition opened Chichkan «Pornopop». Raznochinnaya businessmen with siskastymi goats, "traders' heads, drunk advertisers, indecent fifochki a drug," a fashionable young people, hungry journalists aging honored artists and other creatures came to show off and look at how Chichkan copulates with his girlfriend. Rubbing vlazhneyuschuyu fly, visitors peered through the peephole, which was broadcast chichkanovskoe porn, considered a kind of Kama Sutra, performed in the style of bullies and photographer Terry Richardson drank champagne and pinching her pink hole its own satellites and companions. "

details here
http://www.proza.com.ua/events/pornopop.shtml

Кирилл Сызранский 05.05.2009 17:48

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Сообщение от Veronic (Сообщение 364506)
Cyril and how to reach the common sense?

If "dostuchatsya", then maybe stick, club ...

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Сообщение от Veronic (Сообщение 364566)
"24 May 2006 in glaring KievGallery« L'Art »in Andreevskom exhibition opened Chichkan« Pornopop ».

But you have not been there and I was not. And it was for all time, two hundred, on the strength, and then a man of fifty-journalists and other media. As much you pump, "Museums are overcrowded. Which museums?

Veronic 05.05.2009 17:55

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 364576)

But you have not been there and I was not. And it was for all time, two hundred, on the strength, and then a man of fifty-journalists and other media. As much you pump, "Museums are overcrowded. Which museums?

Cyril, that's like me as you so naively put it, sometimes I think, seriously you are joking or if you please ?.....

Things we should call a spade a spade. This porn and serves some purpose. A gallery is here with it ... and aging artists ... and there all the same ... fun with you ....

Buscador 05.05.2009 17:58

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Сообщение от Art-lover (Сообщение 363656)
"" degenerate art "I will continue to be called" degenerate art ".

Art can not be degenerative because it is not art. It may only be giving rise to the sublime and the beautiful! This terminology is applicable only to crafts herstopodobnyh haters of art!


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