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Posav 17.04.2012 20:52

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Сообщение от "Kirill Syzran; 2075321 '
You are about life in the USSR by the Soviet judge movies?

Well, why do the movies?
I have long been forty years, as I have already written and well remember the Brezhnev period of stability and subsequent stages.

Konstantin 17.04.2012 21:21

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Сообщение от Posav; 2075341"
well remember the Brezhnev period of stability

And what now?
And one lady remembers the king and the priest in the rare moments between the banned endlessly scribbling here lots of text about it. You are about Brezhnev , even some of Stalin cry.
What can we with you all doing ? Why are you here to write it all go?

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Сообщение от Posav; 2075271"
But this mess is now artificially created because the better to catch fish in troubled waters

Here you have a point, and who created it? Those who sit in power for 12 years ?
Yes, I know I know , the new Brezhnev blamed weak , the poor will be on Novodvorskaya all to blame .
You do not need it we've heard a hundred times and a ban is not far away, you know.

Кирилл Сызранский 17.04.2012 21:22

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Сообщение от Posav (Сообщение 2075341)
Brezhnev period of stability

This 80-year.
What can you remember?
Thus, snotty childhood.

Дилетант 17.04.2012 21:45

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Сообщение от Posav; 2075271 '
The fear kept procedures: Soviet man" image of morality "divorced - put membership card on the table, an alcoholic - a new apartment with the amenities you will not wait on the line.

Exactly! Why are there "party committee"? The party committee - it is almost bourgeois liberalism and snotty half-measures! "Troika" - that is the true guarantor of "morality." And what kind of people but then with the Kolyma after returning reforging - Flint! (Well, who came back, of course).
Or, for example, agriculture. What was the enthusiasm which it! A winter get it? And the spring? Well, passports, of course, the farmers were not. Some sort of up to 54 years. And in some places and up to 59. And when they began to give, because some more and die set, "without the right to travel outside the district." And again: this was the deeper meaning and higher "morality": a collective farmer from the native to the village council to leave? which he had forgotten in the city? Where he was born there and handy! (A sausage - it is unusual for what is harmful stomach passion! Pure poison!)
A demonstration of what they were! Kazhny Mayday, kazhnoe Syamoe November! And it is not in order, but only at the call of the heart, were built in the column - and in the cold for an hour s waiting for their turn! That was the consciousness of the people! (In general, Katerina Ivanovna Marmeladova - mad ...)
By the way, not so long ago I had occasion to visit Emanzhelinsk - mining town in the Chelyabinsk region. So there is a level of consciousness - a passion! There's a force of proletarian class-consciousness, few of the men, and until retirement, then lived out. Understood that it is difficult to state all retirement pay - and survived! There, to this day grandmother - miner's widow - living in the barracks. No hot water. And with a clean latrine. On the street. And grandmother did not wait for the individual apartments. (Not another one and all - alcoholic ...)
Well, that is - sorry for your attention. I promise more in this section does not go ... And then as if to Katerina Ivanovna - the wrong ...

artcol 17.04.2012 22:16

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Сообщение от dabbler (Сообщение 2075431)
Exactly! Why are there "party committee"? The party committee - it is almost bourgeois liberalism and snotty half-measures! "Troika" - that is the true guarantor of "morality." And what kind of people but then with the Kolyma after returning reforging - Flint! (Well, who came back, of course).
Or, for example, agriculture. What was the enthusiasm which it! A winter get it? And the spring? Well, passports, of course, the farmers were not. Some sort of up to 54 years. And in some places and up to 59. And when they began to give, because some more and die set, "without the right to travel outside the district." And again: this was the deeper meaning and higher "morality": a collective farmer from the native to the village council to leave? which he had forgotten in the city? Where he was born there and handy! (A sausage - it is unusual for what is harmful stomach passion! Pure poison!)
A demonstration of what they were! Kazhny Mayday, kazhnoe Syamoe November! And it is not in order, but only at the call of the heart, were built in the column - and in the cold for an hour s waiting for their turn! That was the consciousness of the people! (In general, Katerina Ivanovna Marmeladova - mad ...)
By the way, not so long ago I had occasion to visit Emanzhelinsk - mining town in the Chelyabinsk region. So there is a level of consciousness - a passion! There's a force of proletarian class-consciousness, few of the men, and until retirement, then lived out. Understood that it is difficult to state all retirement pay - and survived! There, to this day grandmother - miner's widow - living in the barracks. No hot water. And with a clean latrine. On the street. And grandmother did not wait for the individual apartments. (Not another one and all - alcoholic ...)
Well, that is - sorry for your attention. I promise more in this section does not go ... And then as if to Katerina Ivanovna - the wrong ...

Oddly enough - it was all in different ways. The economy was planned administrative-command, in one place vbuhivali, and all the other run. I personally remember that actually buy something from the normal food and clothing could only Msc (despite the fact that my father from me, as it was called before a "thug"), but the wife - the daughter of a local aircraft factory engineers - said that it was in the stores and do not need to go. And this is one city.

Кирилл Сызранский 17.04.2012 22:32

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Сообщение от artcol; 2075501"
I personally remember that actually buy something from the normal food and clothing could only Msk

I knew from the Kuibyshev then in your Dimitrovgrad went shopping there for the workers NIIAR was a special provision in the stores Sotsgorod udovalos something to them to buy scarce .
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Сообщение от artcol; 2075501"
but the wife - the daughter of Engineers with a local aircraft factory - said that it was in the stores and do not need to go .

It really depends on your needs .
 <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

манна 17.04.2012 23:40

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Сообщение от Posav; 2075271 '
The fear kept procedures: Soviet man" image of morality "divorced - put membership card on the table, an alcoholic - a new apartment with the amenities you will not wait on the line.

Your family was probably fear. In my family, I do not remember any fear. Parents of non-partisan. My mother divorced. 2 years after the birth of their first child moved from a basement with no hot water in the center of Moscow in hruschebu. Here is a second apartment were just 18 years later. Well, they are "bumps" were not ordinary Soviet engineers. With the "face of morality", too, all OK.
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Сообщение от Posav; 2075271"
. Who is going to lawlessness and chaos, because it lost the fear of being punished, and not from the influence of the priests.

And I did not write what is now a mess of the priests (since you are already on my quote reply). They are not dependent and independent "look morale" (for example, with the Union resulted in this context). Therefore, do not agree with this:
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Сообщение от Posav; 2074781"
The Church and its 10 commandments is a form of social order, so to speak, a pledge of public health until it was transferred to a higher level of consciousness .

You can not please <! - ~ 7 ~ ->, where "fear", is now a mess because of the loss of fear. And what to do - to enter the Holy Inquisition? <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Кирилл Сызранский 17.04.2012 23:45

By the way, Scoop drank more than now.

The usual daily picture - lying around on the streets of drunken men, especially near the grocery store with wine and vodka departments.
Now a drunk lying in the street - a rarity.

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Сообщение от manna (Сообщение 2075581)
And what to do - to enter the Holy Inquisition?
<! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Vrnut that time and, of course, return to the Soviet Union, socialism, youth ...
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artcol 17.04.2012 23:52

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2075591)
By the way, Scoop drank more than now .
The usual daily picture - lying around on the streets of drunken men , especially near the grocery store with wine and vodka departments. Now a drunk lying in the street - a rarity .

Starting with my generation - the rampant sobriety and absolute after 30 years.

Кирилл Сызранский 18.04.2012 00:03

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2075611)
From my generation - the rampant sobriety and absolute after 30 years.

But where does "my generation", artcol?
You-you what side to SSSRovsoy life?


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