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Seriy 27.08.2011 21:31

Cyril Syzran, and where you see the contradiction , do not you understand? Is creating a work of art does not include labor costs and man-days ?
Every artist has the time in which he usually creates a picture of a certain size and complexity.
Van Gogh, for example , could, and two paintings by 90h70 on the day to write .. and no , the art was not damaged.
Moreover, except for labor costs is financial -on supplies.
There are exhibitions, catalogs? there are costs to them , which are also included in the cost picture.

Кирилл Сызранский 27.08.2011 21:36

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Сообщение от Seriy; 1750463"
and where you see the contradiction , do not understand ?

I do not see the contradictions .
Surprised vocabulary.
And yet, you can remember this :
I became a craftsman : my fingers
     Gave a docile , dry fluency
     And loyalty to his ear. Sounds slaying ,
     I razyal music like a corpse. believe
     I harmony with algebra . then
     Already dared , science savvy ,
     Indulge in creative bliss dream.
     I began to do , but in silence, but in secret,
     Not daring to think more about the glory .
( c) :D>

Seriy 27.08.2011 21:49

Cyril Syzran, you know, fly apart , meatballs separately .
When work becomes a habit , paints , canvases are bought in bulk , invoices, transfers , bank details , customs, information from the Ministry of Culture - vocabulary is also adjusted .
 Yes, I would be happy to set up a series of low-cost meter ch.b. abstractions , but on condition that this series is a stable prodazhi.Mozhet ever come back to this idea.
And on the actual art I write on the forum quite a lot , read my comparative analysis of Van Gogh , Gauguin in the subject of suicides , or the role of the ancient ideal of the vanguard of the 1910s in the 100 years of abstract art.

Кирилл Сызранский 27.08.2011 22:13

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Yes, I would be happy to set up a series of low-cost meter ch.b. abstractions , but on condition that this series is a stable sales .

I recalled memories of Yuri Trifonov on one conversation with Tvardovsky , the then chief editor of "New Time".
Trifonov, after the resounding success of his first things the story " Students ," for which he , a 25- year-old novice , was awarded the Stalin Prize, had been a long time, as often happens , the creative prime, looking for something , went to the trip to the construction of the Karakum Canal , etc.:
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I explained about the Turkmen Canal, about closure , about his abandoned novel . Tvardovsky , listened attentively , suddenly said sharply:

- Here's what to write . About it and write: as planned , threw millions, suddenly shut down ...

- You are such a story to print?

- Yes, you write the first! - He shouted angrily .

Yes, you write the first !
" Stable sales ..." :D>

zarajara 28.08.2011 06:59

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 1750543)
I recalled memories of Yuri Trifonov on one conversation with Tvardovsky, the then chief editor of "New World".
Trifonov, after the resounding success of his first things the story "Students," for which he, a 25-year-old novice, was awarded the Stalin Prize, had been a long time, as often happens, the creative prime, looking for something, went to the trip to the construction of the Karakum Canal , etc.:


Yes, you write the first!

"Stable sales ..." :D>

Cyril Syzran, an interesting story, but the approach of the author (artist, writer ...), living from sales of his work, maloproduktiven. Either he is quite well known and marketed as a brand, or it is somewhere in the works for a sale is not essential.
Not every artist can afford that risk.
I immediately thought of the paradox Chukovsky "Write unselfishly, for that they pay more."
Oh, not always. :rolleyes:>

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 1750143)
Everyone has their own threshold of pragmatism. I remembered there is another long-time interview, six years have passed - as it was yesterday. About the logic of the decision-making gallerists: http://www.directorinfo.ru/article.a...=14113&iid=645

Thank you, Vladimir, extremely intelligible text, puts the point over the disputed i :)>

Seriy 28.08.2011 08:45

Cyril Syzran, and I write ! 400 works exhibited at Artmazhere for 3 years.
Do they seem to be worthy of you personally or not is a matter of taste Well , as you know ...
Sales are , slowly growing in numbers and , and in the size (all larger canvases interested buyers ) dimension. Geography is increasing.
Next will be even better .

 As for the cheap and a lot - think of Picasso : when his work were not going well , as , for example, a friend of his marriage was sold significantly more expensive , Picasso sought a publisher and did lithographs to any text. Lithography cheap, disagreed with a bang , and brought as a result of circulation of good money. On the same ( monetary ) and created about "Suite Vollard " , the money needed Vollard and that appealed to Picasso, with a request to create a series of lithographs.

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zarajara, you're right ... and the artist can adjust the size of demand for work-little cheaper, and always buy the best ...
Sales for the artist are not only materially but also psychologically.
No sales and just think what you're doing anyone unnecessarily poor quality of work.

Артём 28.08.2011 09:46

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Sales for the artist are not only materially but also psychologically . No sales and just think what you're doing anyone unnecessarily poor quality of work.

Not exactly. " You look from their point of view ." A huge number of artists and write every day , not thinking at all about sales. For example , my friend Sasha Maryahin said that he decided one day, in psychological terms , is not sweating about sales at all.
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yes and the artist can adjust the size of demand for work - little cheaper, and always buy the best ...

Again, for example in my little work may cost more than big - it's a private matter. If I see a very good small and as you say labor costs are high, then the price will be high.

With " Artnau " you are well , although I have not sold them not one job for a long time. In general, I stopped to talk to them . It makes no sense .

NATA NOVA 28.08.2011 10:35

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Yes, I would be happy to set up a series of low-cost meter ch.b. abstractions , but on condition that this series is a stable prodazhi.Mozhet ever come back to this idea


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Yes, you write the first !

 
 
Seriy, tip:
must make a series of tiny (though 5h5sm ) eskizikov ( neat and detailed ) , but as a hand (time, siuatsiya ) fit - realizuesh in large format .
_____________
About money and creativity : think of the book " Freud and money" ( that something like that , sorry. I do not remember the author)
Very interesting. Who are interested , find it!

Seriy 28.08.2011 13:12

Artem, of course , I speak from their point of view , because there are artists who do not fundamentally sell their works. On one side are well - rid of the psychological pressure, on the other, get rid of criticism? No criticism can be taken away in such a jungle -searching , nobody cares ...
I, too, ceased to exhibit work on a heap of sites return to zero. There were only two artmazher and artnau . Yes, I am lucky Artnau , I think because of my diversified and low cost. But there are artists out there that sell ten times better than me - so it 's all relative.
On artmazhere sales , but there are counter display , which is close to 100 000. It seems to me so important that so far from artmazherom friends.
 Nath , thought great! and I have already carried out , bought the album and lying in a hospital filled his small 10x10 abstract compositions . This is the window size in artproektore . I have not bought it yet , but will likely fall to buy anything , or video - thumbnail then you can immediately project onto the canvas and see - it .

NATA NOVA 29.03.2012 10:14

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C "Artnau" you are well, although I have not sold, they are not the same work for a long time. In general, I stopped to talk to them. It makes no sense.

Artem, "like"! But there my fellow artists bought a pair of tie-even so-Plynov "cherry," Casper, "Fish," and someone else bought the fish .... And by-one ..
Artnau good for amateurs, beginners, and "apogovorit." There are beautiful .. who know the artists, but it is buried in offtopnom motley bazaar terendezhe, unfortunately ..

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Сообщение от Kirill Syzran; 1749503"
And the gallery owner asked young artists to send him my resume?
I now also send mail to any advertising, and I delete it without looking.

Incorrect comparison (IMHO)
Usually (even before the works to send a CD) requires a brief phone. conversation with the owner (responsible person). Introduce yourself and ask the owner about his interest in new names.
With vendors and "retsepshionistami" there is no point to talk (and if you are talking to, write name).
Further, (as appropriate) ask, in what form is convenient to send?
if the emaylu_obychno 6.8 works. (No more than 500 kb each, and a better one) if by mail, then the envelope, label and return address ..

E mail is better to send in the morning.
Better yet, do so (this is from experience)
A. to call. (Ask for permission to send)
Two. send images of work (all should be prepared in advance, of course, otformatorovano, signed, as expected, in general, vocational) A summary at this stage they do not!
3.esche just call and ask about the impression and the result (an appointment, send work)
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And remember: the lack of results, too, result!
with new galleries, be careful and attentive. (have referees)
Good luck!


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