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Тихая Сапа 12.01.2011 16:58

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Сообщение от eva777 (Сообщение 1465871)
it does not even love, this relationship)))

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about the disease, in a good way.



Moth: Plain truth, so if you feel healthy, you'd better not)))

Pavel 12.01.2011 18:12

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Вивьен 12.01.2011 18:52

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 1466141)
Simply go to the antique-komissionki huge selection and reasonable prices.

School at the auction houses are tyschi.
Better to focus on one particular direction, what the soul is, read books to the Internet to become more or less professional. Generate some momentum. And in the process will dop.znaniya, dating, and it will be possible to expand the range.

Komissionki - it was good. Very rarely you can go to sites like AUKRO section antiques (in the painting are categorically not advise - to spoil your taste at once), but it is only later, when read a book (can somehow navigate), because there are a lot of nonsense.
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Сообщение от babochka; 1465391"
and such a minus sign (like me) can also be? This event is open?

Typically, these gatherings are closed and all know each other already. But the flea market - open. Here and there you can meet those who will eventually lead you to a private event. The only piece of advice: if you are interested in simply as a "fad" - it is better not to go. This is a terrible thing if one day "hooked", no longer be cured. Me all the time my grandfather said: "Look carefully, would delay ..." And to me, except: "It has long been delayed. It's too late - he had nothing to answer :)

I-V 12.01.2011 23:56

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Сообщение от babochka (Сообщение 1462521)
I have long been interesting to ask the experts whether there exist in nature, people who are gifted" talent "to distinguish the real thing from the antique, such as forgery (or" sleaze ")? or this long study, work, and only with experience comes a flair? share experiences and stories, if any

I think you can remember this great collector. I do not know whether he was a connoisseur who knows how to correctly distinguish the original from a fake (probably not), but the fact that this man was truly in love with the art, can not be doubted:

http://drevo-info.ru/articles/1059.html - Chronology of the Life of Archimandrite Alypy (Voronova) (with a small but vivid memories)

http://www.voronov.com.ru/ - "Chronicle of Life Archimandrite Alypy told by himself"

http://www.voronov.com.ru/foto2.htm - pictures of paintings from the collection of Archimandrite Alypy donated to the Russian Museum, St. Petersburg, Pskov museum-reserve and Pechora Museum in 1975

http://www.rusiskusstvo.ru/collector.html?id=257 - "Russian Art", "Pechora collection Archimandrite Alypy"

http://www.pravoslavie.ru/news/10602.html - abstract art collection exhibition Abbot Alypy, which opened its 90 th anniversary in the city of Pskov in July 2004

http://informpskov.ru/skobar/14944.html - abstract of the same exhibition with biography Archimandrite Alypy and photos of several paintings

http://www.rutv.ru/video.html?tvpreg...079&d=0&mid=14 - a documentary film "Alypy - Warrior" (July 2009)

1. Archimandrite Alypy (Ravens) (1914 - 1975)

2. RUSSIAN PAINTING AND GRAPHICS XVIII-XX centuries
from the collection of IM Voronov, donated to the Russian Museum.
Exhibition Catalogue
Leningrad, 1975.

12.01.2011 23:57

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Сообщение от Vivien (Сообщение 1466261)
Komissionki - it was good. Very rarely you can go to sites like AUKRO section antiques (in the painting are categorically not advise - to spoil your taste at once), but it is only later, when read a book (can somehow navigate), because there are a lot of nonsense.

Typically, these gatherings are closed and all know each other already. But the flea market - open. Here and there you can meet those who will eventually lead you to a private event. The only piece of advice: if you are interested in simply as a "fad" - it is better not to go. This is a terrible thing if one day "hooked", no longer be cured. Me all the time my grandfather said: "Look carefully, would delay ..." And to me, except: "It has long been delayed. It's too late - he had nothing to answer :)

so what there really fashion .. all familiar "modnyavye" commemorating the altar "Glamour" far from "dusty old".
From childhood I have been most needed grandmother's chest :)
delay can be anything you want. I think so, just decided to ask here, then in some way been "prolonged" ..

Pecheneg 13.01.2011 00:30

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Сообщение от eva777 (Сообщение 1465871)
it does not even love, this relationship)))

ie
about the disease, in a good way.

As one friend of the psychiatrist: "Collecting - is a form of schizophrenia ..." I am sick about this for 40 years ...
:)

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Сообщение от "Vivien (Сообщение 1466261)
Typically, these gatherings are closed and all already know each other

Gatherings just open, but their share acquisitions usually face-to-em .. with close druzmi.Da and decent thing to universal screening can not stand ...

fabosch 13.01.2011 00:51

It is curious that the topic of "special on antikvraiatu" slipped on "Collecting". This course sets intersect, but it seems to me, no more than 20-30%. In many cases, a thorough knowledge of "their" subject matter (and even love for him) does not imply a collectible, or shall we say, deliberate self-employed as a collectible. Such professionals can fold collection, but simply by virtue of training the subject. Therefore, as a not very clear what needs to be questioning babochka?

13.01.2011 01:26

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Сообщение от fabosch (Сообщение 1466581)
It is interesting that the theme of "special on antikvraiatu" slipped on "Collecting". This course sets intersect, but it seems to me, no more than 20-30%. In many cases, a thorough knowledge of "their" subject matter (and even love for him) does not imply a collectible, or shall we say, deliberate self-employed as a collectible. Such professionals can fold collection, but simply by virtue of training the subject. Therefore, as a not very clear what needs to be questioning babochka?

all that I need, I get the full :)

You are right that you do not collect, knowing the subject and vice versa. probably very few people held (knowing the subject). but how do you know the subject? Thank IV, revered as the man, "grew up" and what has come, loving the art .. I have a lot of questions, and asked me just one.
I think everything about what it says here can be (and is) useful in both of the cases among themselves (and not only).

eva777 13.01.2011 14:11

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 1466141)
Better to focus on one particular direction, what the soul is, read books to the Internet to become more or less professional. Generate some momentum. And in the process will dop.znaniya, dating, and it will be possible to expand the range.

"Zamkadyshi" - it's good!)))
but if I understood correctly, babochka lives in Riga ..
to begin to focus on than one, in my opinion, is not correct ..
Internet often gives misleading information, so it's all the same as you find the time and money on some lectures .. You can search for museums, auction houses do not necessarily ..

Вивьен 13.01.2011 15:51

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Сообщение от Pecheneg (Сообщение 1466491)
Gathering just open, but their share acquisitions usually face-to-em ..

I'm not talking about the rallies, but about the rallies. Gatherings are open to the whole world, they are big, and rallies for the "members" or something like that. But the gatherings for many years as had begun to lose its relevance. Appeared online.


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