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манна 04.09.2013 05:12

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 2744051)
In Moscow, there is no such place, so that when you close a grocery store, had "Ride" somewhere around the sausage and even " far enough ".
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You are wrong.

Artoil-A 04.09.2013 05:38

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Сообщение от Keeper dill 2744021
honest truth . You can buy there and interesting , and exciting artists. Just like everywhere .. there is work "on the run " , there are other .
Often the money is needed urgently and there atomic cross ... higher probability of gallery .

   I remember that my exposure is usually at public sale , except for one - three expensive work included a dozen miniatures , designed for a poor viewer. Thumbnails bought up at the end of trading for , for an amount of about 0.1 of the average wage each . Average of about 5 - 10 average salaries were exposed to a month before the sale . Sold almost all the developments . It is the development of a successful sale . Although later preferred to reduce the price three times , and sell secondary flow patterns quickly. The most serious problem was the development of original stories. Due to the decline in prices and to the development of plots and small-scale production , have become available relatively cheap sale in salons and souvenir departments of department stores in the cities of Moscow and the Moscow region. Naturally, it was necessary to attach fees to make it work , and not squander .
Beyond the traditional realist painting in commercial papers did not come out , even though the exhibition shows Surrey in technology of computer graphics.

Евгений 04.09.2013 06:19

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Сообщение от Pavel; 2743351 "
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Inflation ... ...
That's why people buy and the money to invest .

Not in modern paintings .. Paul , paintings by contemporary artists ( little-known , regional , etc.) , buy lovers of beautiful spots on the wall (they , frankly, do not care, what to buy, posters , repetition , compile photo wallpaper , the price suits and all).
Of inflation ( in Russian ) go to the purchase of real estate , currency , antiques , etc.
modern paintings buy the least and if the person in the full inadequate.

Seriy 04.09.2013 07:47

Eugene, here I was at the auction - sale of the collection in Inkom Gelos in 2001 (?) . Do not buy anything because nothing really did not like the eye. But from the point of view of investment, as it turned out , it was possible to buy anything from contemporary artists ... And other people are buying and do not regret it.
Do pal hanging a huge canvas and interior work, but highly technical and time-consuming . He ordered the artist to her in the same year for a small fee . Without doubt, the liquid product and , in terms of investment, good , now worth several times more expensive .
Here are appearing on the forum topic sale of Lucy Raven . Now the works of the artist can only be purchased through a fund in her highly exclusive contract . And where w work in people ? And they bought, when Lucy Voronov was not as well-known . And now these collectors are in very good plus. And who here is not adequate ?

Fed 04.09.2013 08:34

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Сообщение от Seriy; 2744231 "
from the point of view of investment, as it turned out , it was possible to buy anything from contemporary artists .

Do not remind any of the contemporary artists in question.
I remember selling Brookman and Bakhchanian . For a few thousand dollars.
About the current sales Brookman is not known, but Bahchanyan 30 years prior to the auction emigrated to the United States, not somehow fit on the topic. Yes, and the last sale was for him in 1300 , but not for 3000-4000 , as proposed then for computer printing.

Can not find anything in the official sales Bruni Lawrence .

Then , basically, Gelos sold fairly well-known artists , who in 60 years .
Kabakov is difficult to attribute or Infante to the "modern" artists which says Eugene .

Alain looked Kirtsova estimated at 5-6 thousand only then to sell fixed - Artinvestment 6000 euros. At times just did not increase .

Interestingly by Michael Odnoralov - assessment then 4000 . Then only the 2nd sale- 3600, and almost the same still life , as in Gelos , after 5 years at MacDougall `s- 5200 .
With protsenami auctions , trade Navara from eggs .

That is, proposal to fight inflation purchase of modern artists safely even at prices not to mention the liquidity - try if you want to get rid of .
In my opinion, " from the point of view of investment," then you can buy whatever you want. The financial bubble was at the beginning. And these artists do not exactly what " successful " acquisition .

Seriy 04.09.2013 08:48

Fed, I do not remember the entire list of artists, except Purygina , Koshlyakov Infante - then I was not in the subject . But the prices were benign , mostly below $ 1,000 , there were over $ 200 No 6 thousand dollars , it Purygin , triptych , left more 10 thousand large canvas ( Koshliakov ? May be mistaken ) the type of 2-3 meters Salakhova persuaded to take up to 1 -2 thousand dollars somewhere is also a result of the then trade ... At Vladimir Bogdanov ask .
  Fed, I know of several collectors, for which the purchase of artists in the early or mid- career , to the point where they have become well-known and valued, the only way to make money. Here and assume nothing.
Conditional- purchase collection Buch , when his work was worth hundreds of dollars , covers all costs of artists who have become famous in such a short time . Nothing ventured , nothing gained , definitely.

Владимир Владимирович 04.09.2013 09:23

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 2744051"
" far enough ".

And I do not doubt that you Kirill respond. This is me so vividly . It is clear that there are shops on somewhere . But it was close . 100-300 meters. Now picture nesedobnye . Vodka and others also need to look elsewhere . <! - ~ 11 ~ -> <! - ~ 7 ~ -> It's a shame ! People are accustomed to. There, and in Soviet times was always shop . It was convenient .

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Сообщение от Fed; 2744281 "
Ie proposal to fight inflation purchase of modern artists safely even at prices not to mention the liquidity - try if you want to get rid of .
In my opinion, " from the point of view of investment," then you can buy whatever you want. The financial bubble was at the beginning. And these artists do not exactly what " successful " acquisition .

In the lounge of the Union of Artists in Odessa 80th of buying Lomykin studies , such as for 80-100 rubles. Because liked the work . It was not an investment . Gave a birthday , etc. .. Who's buying , he won .

Fed 04.09.2013 10:16

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Сообщение от Seriy; 2744301 "
Nothing ventured , nothing gained , definitely.

I do not argue, but advise to buy little-known today just can not .
Although , really , it's nice when someone becomes more expensive at times.
But others - it is not getting more expensive , I mean, try to sell them , even if theoretically price grew .
From coins and decent antiques such problems are observed.
That is, paintings - the amateur paintings. Good speculative funds . if you're lucky .

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Сообщение от Vladimir Vladimirovich , 2744311 "
buy Lomykin studies , such as for 80-100 rubles. Because liked the work . It was not an investment . Gave a birthday , etc. .. Who's buying , he won .

Besides Lomykin there much that was sold , and not all for the 25 the present. Now packs of 300-500 euros shove , and shove they can not. And it is not sketches.

Pavel 04.09.2013 11:38

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Сообщение от Vladimir Vladimirovich, 2744311
Inside the Artists' Union in Odessa in the 80th of buying Lomykin studies, such as for 80-100 rubles.
Because liked the work.
It was not an investment.
Gave a birthday, etc. .. Who's buying, he won.

Show that any Lomykin.

Fed 04.09.2013 12:02

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