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K-Maler 10.11.2009 01:19

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Сообщение от DSF (Сообщение 691952)
I say about the artists, members of SC who were born in the period from 30's to late 50's approximately. The nature and psychology of these artists forged in the Brezhnev era. Anywhere they are not gone, and not extinct.

This is a very diverse contingents. Among them were a lot of hidden opposition, and many have worked as writers say "the table" ... At the first opportunity they have openly stated their priorities. In the same open resistance ... At some point it started. I know this one, now a professor, always a lot of students, and the idea of sharp ... She currently works as a truly modern artist. I wonder when the value attached to age as the defining idea, it is not, is not the criterion ... All good artists with age write better and more interesting for the ideas ...

Pavel 10.11.2009 10:36

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 692042)
We have already tried - failed.
I do not remember saying I was or not, but here recently had to deal with officials. Chas official told something. Folding with the correct case and Russian words. An hour later I honestly confessed that he did not understand what they mean. You know what he answered? He made a theatrical pause, and said: - That's right, no one understands, it is difficult, even there (here he raised his eyes upward) do not understand. Okay easier to explain. "And for another hour. But I did not understand, then a more intelligent and experienced fellow workers explained. Although I am still not convinced of the correctness of our conjectures.

I am not obliged explains the most basic things that everyone should know who is engaged in the arts. Generally it is a complicated thing and do one of the Internet is impossible, you need a lot to read, to experience and general feel.

Cyril, Ava lied - your protégé graduated from the Theater Institute and has a higher artistic education. Firstly he got it not in Israel, and secondly, he certainly has worked in three places in the theater Kuibyshev. Basis is but I would not put him as a trader. Why? You'll find out gradually.

About VZ Purygin. The epithet "Van Gogh" in relation to him I did not invent, it is a journalistic invention. I stress again, I'm not talking about the work of this artist. I'm talking about his personality. And the character he was, to put it mildly, esktravagantny. For example, he wore a pair of pliers in his pocket, and if it is something disliked, could take them and say: I told you now nose otkushu. He could have a bite to eat cigarette butt. I could go specifically in torn shoes and jackets. Initially left the party, and then came in again, attended all meetings and rallies, with Makashov hug How do you think it's easy gallerist with such a man to cooperate? When nobody knows what he will come up with tomorrow? Not everyone will stand the. [/QUOTE]

A Purygin a decent man.

Кирилл Сызранский 10.11.2009 10:41

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 692202)
Kirill, Ava lied - your protégé graduated from the Theater Institute and has a higher art education.

Where have I lied?
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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 690992)
Kletzel Veniamin Mikhailovich (05. 05. 1932) studied in Tashkent College of Arts and Theater Institute. Ostrovsky (art department).

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 692202)
Firstly, he got it not in Israel

You read carefully before accusing anyone of lying.

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 692202)
and secondly, he certainly has worked in three places in the theater Kuibyshev.

In Kuibyshev, while there were 4 theater in any did not work as artistic director.

Pavel 10.11.2009 10:48

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 692062)
This is a very diverse contingents. Among them were a lot of hidden opposition, and many have worked as writers say "the table" ... At the first opportunity they have openly stated their priorities. In the same open resistance ... At some point it started. I know this one, now a professor, always a lot of students, and the idea of sharp ... She currently works as a truly modern artist. I wonder when the value attached to age as the defining idea, it is not, is not the criterion ... All good artists with age write better and more interesting ideas on ...

There was no opposition party, and stupidity of those who were then in the party, and now we have managed.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 692242)
You read carefully before accusing anyone of lying.


In Kuibyshev, while there were 4 theater in any he worked as production designer.

It is not necessary to be in the state.
You skazale that he taught at the Children's Art. school. This level graduate thin. school. Rather, for him it was a little underworking. Even in the plant, the contract for exhibitions. Sales from the shop and in the cabin. You had an artistic salon? And you describe it almost amateur.

Кирилл Сызранский 10.11.2009 11:02

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 692282)
You skazale that he taught at the Children's Art. school.

Yes, he was parallel with our class, behind the wall. Sometimes we have conducted lessons. In 70-74 years. When I was studying, all the artists were taught in school, the school has ever had. What is this strange.
Beauty was something there of course was sold. So?
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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 692282)
This is not necessarily to be in the state.

You mean work in the theater in quite some time, I see nothing and know the job even can not imagine, but I worked in our drama artist props and artistic staging of know that some still remember. : D
Art directors performances were my leaders.

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 692272)
And you describe it almost amateur.

What are these words of mine about Kletzel can make such a conclusion? Interesting.

Vladimir 10.11.2009 11:07

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 692062)
All the good artists from the age of writing better and more interesting for the ideas ...

Age is different. In old age often takes the power of painting. Age can, and do not test, but a factor that should be taken into account. And with the great artists of the factor works: Chagall, Kandinsky - whether they have become stronger in old age?

Кирилл Сызранский 10.11.2009 11:16

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 692322)
Chagall, Kandinsky - whether they have become stronger in old age?

The ceiling of the famous Parisian Theater Grand Opera (Garnier Palace ") was painted by Marc Chagall in 1964. In 77 years! However, for the step is still possible and not "advanced" age, ktak as he lived to almost 98 years. (Three months did not live to 98, rather.)

Вивьен 10.11.2009 12:38

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 692322)
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All good artists with age write better and more interesting for the ideas ...


Age is different. In old age often takes the power of painting.

With age, the quality is really evident when comparing the work of the artist in the 25 and 55 years.
And old age (deep), most (not all) goes "youthful exuberance," eye drops, energy is not the kind of work becomes softer, calmer.

Кирилл Сызранский 10.11.2009 12:39

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Сообщение от Vivien (Сообщение 692522)
work become softer, calmer.

Perhaps-wise.

ранжер 10.11.2009 12:52

It has long been a debate going on that this Chagall painting from the ceiling removed.

Every artist has its own individual path of creativity.
One of the best reserves in their 30, the other only to the 70 reaches its peak of perfection, and some life write smoothly and old age as in youth.


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