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Кирилл Сызранский 26.08.2013 11:06

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 2729891)
But look at the cost of sales of his paintings, 12000, 16000, 37000 pounds of unsold, unsold, ...
, 6000.

Latest:

5.6.2013 - Macdougall - 37,520 GBP;

04/04/2013 - Scoop - 900 000 RUR;

03/07/2013 - Gelos - 900,000 RUR;

25/10/2012 - Scoop - 2,200,000 RUR.

You sult attention to unsold carefully, counsel Rabin forged.
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Сообщение от Seriy; 2729981 "
Have you talked with any fervor of the financial prosperity of the artist , now with the same fervor summon help her financially .

Where is all that you carry tovarisch ? Where I "ardor" Anne said something about Acorn ? Where I "ardor" called her financial help ?
You watch over your words , do not throw out here , all you bile saliva on the tongue will bring , that is used . attributing something to me .

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And again, not unseemly , I think , speak maliciously about some financial assistance to artists who find themselves in a difficult situation in life.
All in God's hands , the situation can change in a second: you now active "cucumber", and a minute burst vial in the head and you're just "vegetable" with a paralyzed right side body .

Fed 26.08.2013 11:18

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 2729991 "
Rabin spoofs

And the London exhibition , as there is no one to check .

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 2729991 "
Last :

More recently 5.06.2013: Bonhams Estimate: 18,000 GBP - 22,000 GBP- unsold
There's also 79h100 Estimate: 25,000 GBP - 35,000 GBP - Unsold
Oh, and for Macdougall c Sotheby's at the same time a couple of unsold .

Below - average price of £ 20,000 .
Therefore Seriy nothing surprised - to buy a nice apartment in Paris , have half of all paintings sold at auction (including especially %auction) to spend. And croissants ?

Кирилл Сызранский 26.08.2013 11:24

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 2730031)
and exhibited in London, as
there is no one to check.

You can show photos of the author.

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 2730031)
More recently 5.06.2013: Bonhams Estimate: 18,000 GBP - 22,000 GBP-unsold

There's also 79h100 Estimate: 25,000 GBP - 35,000 GBP - Unsold

Oh, and for Macdougall c Sotheby's at the same time a couple of unsold.




Not fatal.

The main thing is to take trades, knowing that Rabin sale.

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 2730031)
below-average price £ 20,000.

From 2003 to 2008 the average price rose from € 2 to € 54 million

Artoil-A 26.08.2013 12:48

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Сообщение от Buscador (Сообщение 2729921)
I think so, that an artist has other, more important to his interests. The artist is important to create. And when thoughts are bytovuhoy and money - not to become an artist ...

Just do not get .
 An artist has to equip a modern workshop - one for him, it does not. Why not work skomplektovat workshop equipment ?
The artist also decides about investing fees and their skills in any business ,
property or property rights ...
It would be , what to invest ...

Seriy 26.08.2013 12:54

Artem, and in the West, many artists avoid auctions.
That's where I am participating in the company and the auction house and three galleries, and so the artists involved here and there do not overlap.

Пулемётчик Ганс 26.08.2013 12:56

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Сообщение от Artem (Сообщение 2729901)
Very good question. Because the whole pricing policy on the market not determined by the results of auctions . This is our market .

Fragmented market .. five major cities, and covered the continent , where artists sell , who as you can and where can .. from markets and shops to exposure to outdoor fences.

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 2729951)
Buscador, you direct the romantic maximalist - the artist must live in poverty, create, create . Picasso constantly thinking and talking about money , the paintings kept in the bank, gave nothing to anyone , ever drove with a suitcase full of money . In Matisse every produced risunochek was registered , as they lived all his large family . Again, nothing anyone away , lived in contract, selling work by size.

  So I'm here and I think , analyze .. why should I listen to your romantic stories about the poor creators , when I study the history of the real great artists ? And Van Gogh was not the poor all the time and money required . Rembrandt bought a house in the center . Teach materiel .
Picasso even in franzuskie museums refused to give free work - told - you want? let them buy on the same basis !

Rembrandt , Bosch, Matisse, Van Gogh .. came from a very wealthy family and raised with governesses and tutors and they had fin.opora and time to dictate prices and not think about hunger.

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Сообщение от Magnolia (Сообщение 2729481)
Arrived!!!


This is the question of the effect on prices of media attention, which can also serve as an excellent guide to the world fin.blagopoluchiya ..
but it is related to the issues of "internal corporate narrow-mechanics."

Buscador 26.08.2013 13:29

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Сообщение от Artoil-A (Сообщение 2730291)
turns out not only to create.

It's all great artists look up to.
A Most of of them have come a long way from a lack of money to glory (and not always life-time).
And always work (art) was dominant.

Pavel 26.08.2013 13:37

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Сообщение от Buscador (Сообщение 2729921)
So we topic - how to promote the artist.
And we do not like or do not like living this or that artist as it gets and it is true or not ...


Here is just the matter of promotion.

Artoil-A 26.08.2013 13:42

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Сообщение от Buscador (Сообщение 2730421)
It's all great artists look up to . A Most of of them have come a long way from a lack of money to glory ( and not always life-time ) . And always work ( art) was dominant .

We do not know the real accounting of lifetime greatness , but the accounts are not great , but I know the normal recovery . Especially in this way are dozens if not hundreds of artists. Again, I doubt the success without considering the economic and legal factors . This is especially important for our country , at once bought from the developed socialism in the wild capitalism .

Pavel 26.08.2013 13:46

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 2729991 "
Last :
5.6.2013 - Macdougall - 37,520 GBP;
04/04/2013 - Scoop - 900 000 RUR;
03/07/2013 - Gelos - 900,000 RUR;
25/10/2012 - Scoop - 2,200,000 RUR.
You sult attention to unsold carefully , counsel Rabin forged.

It's all auctions thence ? McDougall is specifically for our auction and has no weight . The other is the price as a result of promotion and what should be tested and checked.
Answer the questions wrong. If you can not, then do not make statements and talk about things that do not understand , but somewhere , someone said.

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 2730301)
Artem, and in the West, many artists avoid auctions.
That's where I am participating in the company and the auction house and three galleries, and so the artists involved here and there do not overlap.


Because the auction is a secondary market, it determines the price and not all at once.


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