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dedulya37 23.05.2009 14:17

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 399956)
And many people do not learn, so propyanstvuyut 5 years and then boast of teachers. Workshop from birth. Other people's works in the Union. Then talk about someone else's art as his, which is not.

A possible specific examples? Very interesting.

Buscador 23.05.2009 14:18

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 399956)
So you understand how teaching in high school?

Dear, Pavel! You write once allegorically. At least I find it hard to understand you. All this time I was talking about teachers, not college. And what is taught in high school I know - touched. Judging by what you write, "This cup you passed. I would like to see your work and find out who you studied? Or only for yourself ...?

Pavel 23.05.2009 14:26

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Сообщение от Buscador (Сообщение 400066)
Dear, Pavel! You write once allegorically. At least I find it hard to understand you. All this time I was talking about teachers, not college. And what is taught in high school I know - touched. Judging by what you write, "This cup you passed. I would like to see your work and find out who you studied? Or only for himself ...?

I myself. Do you have anyone?
Judging by what you write-touch povehnostno and obnoboko.Obychnye things for artistic uchilischa.Nado grow to learn a foreign art to develop flavor.

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Сообщение от dedulya37 (Сообщение 401)
A possible specific examples? Very interesting.

But you already guessed?

Buscador 23.05.2009 15:25

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 400086)
Judging from what you write-touch povehnostno and obnoboko.Obychnye things for artistic uchilischa.Nado grow to learn a foreign art to develop flavor.

With pleasure I will grow and develop the taste and with your help (if available). Whom do you recommend, for example, from foreign artists? Who today enriches painting their creations? Maybe something of his own show? Also you can learn ...

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 399756)
I forgot something in Savrasov except rooks rooks and repetition?

"Village View" (1867, Gos.Tretyakovskaya gallery, (TG), "Early vesna.Polovode" (1868, Gos.Russkij Museum (SRM), "Elk Island in Sokolniki" (1869, TG), "Country Road" (1873 , TG), Dvorik.Zima "(1870, TG)," Rainbow "(1875, RM)," Spring Day "(1873, Vladimir-Suzdal historic-architectural and art museum-reserve )..... . But if only one "Rooks Have Arrived" was and that would be enough.

Pavel 23.05.2009 16:12

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Сообщение от Buscador (Сообщение 400196)
With pleasure I will grow and develop the taste and with your help (if available). Whom do you recommend, for example, from foreign artists? Who today enriches painting their creations? Maybe something of his own show? Also you can learn ...

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"Village View" (1867, Gos.Tretyakovskaya gallery, (TG), "Early vesna.Polovode" (1868, Gos.Russkij Museum (SRM), "Elk Island in Sokolniki" (1869, TG), "Country Road" (1873 , TG), Dvorik.Zima "(1870, TG)," Rainbow "(1875, RM)," Spring Day "(1873, Vladimir-Suzdal historic-architectural and art museum-reserve )..... . But if only one "Rooks Have Arrived" was and that would be enough.

I Savrasov that in all my life? "And you personally, except that Savrasov?
You must own I did not teach hired.

Jasmin 23.05.2009 17:06

Why Anatoly Zverev fired after a month of study at the school in 1905?
He said the teacher in the classroom:
"Your job is to repair pencils for students, not teach how to draw!"
Expelled from the wording: "... for the appearance ..."
Recently there was an exhibition of drawings Zvereva, about that time ... What does it do to "teach" some teachers??

Pavel 23.05.2009 17:38

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Сообщение от Jasmin (Сообщение 400256)
Why Anatoly Zverev fired after a month of study at the school in 1905?
He said the teacher in the classroom:
"Your job is to repair pencils for students, not teach how to draw!"
Expelled from the wording: "... for the appearance ..."
Recently there was an exhibition of drawings Zvereva, about that time ... What does it do to "teach" some teachers ????

You're wrong. I do not know what he said Zverev But the professors are usually graduates of the same school, having more experience, which they share. Zvereva certainly kicked out for drunkenness. If he was not rich pokrviteley nobody knew.
I liked your work.

Jasmin 23.05.2009 18:52

I read this book Savely Yamshchikova "Anatoly Zverev.
Zverev from a poor family, the mother of the dishwasher, my father died in his youth. Kostaki saw his work in 1954 and was amazed. A drinking and schizophrenia - the lot of many talented artists.

Pavel 23.05.2009 19:14

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Сообщение от Jasmin (Сообщение 400326)
I read this book Savely Yamshchikova "Anatoly Zverev.
Zverev from a poor family, the mother of the dishwasher, my father died in his youth. Kostaki saw his work in 1954 and was amazed. A drinking and schizophrenia - the lot of many talented artists.

I think Costacis collected some bad lay. Then all feel secure and at a salary you could live decently, so the artists gave the picture almost as a gift, a bottle of kefir or two for a bottle of vodka. Earnings were in order and careless. Zverev often lived with Richter and Rostropovich. Here there can be no glory but in a very narrow circles. Then it was often paid and 10000doll for some work.

Buscador 23.05.2009 21:12

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 400236)
Do you personally that in addition Savrasov?

I have, except A. Savrasov - A. Mokritskiy, K. Korovin, F. Solntsev, NK and SN Roerich, K. Kostandi .... What are you interested in specifically?


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