Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

- Costs, valuation, attribution (https://forum.artinvestment.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=6)

- - Mark Rothko (https://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=196)

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Сообщение от IV (Сообщение 2322001)

Well, I do not tell.
Here is his schedule, but he has and oil.

Personally, I'm an artist I do not know and do not intend to.

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 2321251)

Or when fotorealist Richter-artist, but soon ceases to be when it gets abstratsionistom

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Сообщение от Igor Guryev, 2321621

In my opinion, Sviatoslav Richter was a collector, but it is not like a painter

Apparently Seriy mean Gerhard Richter ...

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Сообщение от redbor (Сообщение 2290401)

Here is the painting Rothko can already be called a masterpiece ? :)

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Сообщение от cogerer (Сообщение 2301841)

In my view , it is very unfortunate .

I agree. That's the largest owner paintings Rothko , Ben Heller , said, " I can not give this thing Rothko's masterpiece"
He bought the painting in 1978 for $ 325,000 . then sold - more than $ 500,000 .
..
And now the picture is on sale at Sotheby with an estimate of $ 50 million.

If I understand correctly - in a world where everything is priced at den.znakah -
The better thing is, the more it pays ? So?

And if Rothko painting "Royal blue red and so on ... " will be sold for more than $ 88 million
- It can rightfully be called a masterpiece and the best picture M.Rotko ?

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Сообщение от redbor; 2327671"

This is the largest owner and Rothko paintings, Ben Heller, said, "I can not give this thing Rothko's masterpiece"
He bought the painting in 1978 for $ 325,000. then sold - more than $ 500,000.

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Estimate Rothko's paintings in 1954 "Royal Red and Blue," which topped the list of lots on the evening of shareholders of Modern Art on November 13, between 35 and 50 million dollars. Canvas almost 9.5 feet tall and 5.5 feet wide was one of eight works selected by the artist for solo exhibition at the Art Institute of Chicago in 1954. Following the Chicago scene saw the light and in other cities - the "Royal Red and Blue" was exhibited at the National Gallery of Art in Washington, Whitney Museum in New York and the Museum of Modern Art in Paris.

Influential collector Ben Heller bought the painting in 1978, and, according to the transaction is the agent Sandra Canning, he paid the modest sum of $ 325,000. "I can name that work Rothko very good, but I can not call it a masterpiece - Heller said in a telephone interview. - But this is an important and rare work." Then Heller, owner of more than a dozen paintings by Rothko, sold it for $ 500,000. When Ben Heller was asked what he thought about the Estima Sotheby's, the collector said, "I bought the first Rothko painting for $ 1350 to the early 50's. Now the price has risen to astronomical sum".

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What was considered an expert who understand creativity M.Rotko, this picture will be more expensive than the previous record sold things "orange, red, yellow?"

Which of these two films written better?

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Сообщение от redbor (Сообщение 2328211)

And believe experts who understand the art M.Rotko, this picture will be more expensive than the previous record sold things "orange, red, yellow?"

Which of these two films written better?

Let's compare.

Compare what you can, but understand what work is better, I can not ... yet.
<- ~ 12 ~ ->

I hope to learn :)

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Сообщение от redbor (Сообщение 2328371)

comparison is possible, but it is better to understand what kind of work I can not ... yet.
<- ~ 12 ~ ->

I hope to learn :)

It's simple.
Which is more expensive - and a better.
Magical power more impact on the sub-conscious and simply.
And if you look visually - you can not guess: either the one or this :D

So, the way it is:

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Сообщение от vg_edger (Сообщение 2298031)

Prices for Warhol and Rothko - pure consequence of psychological manipulation.

Another buyer "masterpiece" Rothko apparently preprogrammed whole hype around

"immortal, inimitable and ever-rising in price" paintings?
:)

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Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 2317001)

I'm sorry, but the sculptor yet - to onNenets.

But what do I look for oshibki.U PTUshnoe education and sober here I do not buy the best Modern zahozhu.Lyubiteli
engravings I.Libermana

For 2 pieces rubley.G.Moskva 5000.