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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 2722501)

And where is the promotion of an artist? Or selling the standard scenery with birch artist thus automatically becoming more known and more famous ?

Massive sales , media form public taste . I accidentally gave a list of artists that are more or less effectively in these hyped genres and styles.
But then maybe spin and artists who work in this formed beforehand purchasing needs. Of course , working in this track, the artist becomes a well known buyers. Standard landscape with birches unwound , and may gain popularity and success working in this direction , which I watched ...
We forget to mention the promotion of the artist, to mention raskruchennosti its genre and style.

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Сообщение от Fed; 2722511 '

ability to create good jobs for a few days , is also not to be missed. Although, maybe this is hidden and the Sorcerer's Stone .

No, not the hidden Philosopher's Stone .

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Сообщение от Fed; 2722511 "

Vincent wrote to his brother Theo : "I am still looking for a religii.Potomu night I went out of the house and began to paint stars ".

Not since the end of the beginning . <! - ~ 7 ~ ->
But this is more a question of what comes first - the mind or matter . <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

And more . Van Gogh had something to say to mankind , and he spoke their language .
What is the reason for interest in his work during, before and after .

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Сообщение от Fed; 2722511 "

I think it is the story of exemplary history of the promotion of the project, the center of which was made by a talented , hard-working artist who died young at 37 years old .

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In the first decade after the artist's death held no less than twelve exhibitions of his works in Dutch cities - Amsterdam , Rotterdam, The Hague. However, the world-famous they have not brought success and grew slowly in 1900, only three paintings entered the public sale of modest amounts not exceeding one thousand francs. Only the Paris Exhibition of 1901 in the gallery Bernheim and then the exhibition Salon des Independants in 1905, which was exhibited in a retrospective section 45 things Van Gogh , marked the beginning of glory. She came to Van Gogh , together with the come XX century .

N. A. Dmitriev , " Vincent Van Gogh . Man and the artist "

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Сообщение от Artoil-A; 2722491"

Paul, you, as always in the subject.

Dear, are you always here not in the subject, because kitsch is not art. It's like stale sausage patties or stale. What you have to sell this to you, but it is here to see prices on the artists, and not about how to sell bazaar pictures.

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Сообщение от Artoil-A; 2722491"

There are studies of technologies that you do not know.

I have already told you that you should not write about what not have a clue.

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 2722511)

raising the stakes: Vincent wrote to his brother Theo: "I am still looking for a religii.Potomu night I went out of the house and began to paint stars."

In June 1889 he wrote to Saint-Remy "Starry Night." Start of last year, the greatest creations of the mind inflamed genius.

On what breakthrough came just over a year, can be judged by the last "night" painting "Starry Night over the Rhone", created in the "Yellow House".

"Starry Night" was written a month after the "Red Vineyard".

Why think of them. Seriy likes to remember Van Gogh is not based on commercial promotion. If you omit it the idea of a gradual housing further breakthrough work for bargain-hunting, and sharing their work on the paintings of other artists, which is a great marketing idea - that remain and actually sold during the life of the work.

He and his brother consciously tried and created a few years of post-impressionism whole core of the market. Another thing that blew up the core of the price after their sudden death. So a book about them can be called "Vincent and Theo-aborted flight."

I think it is the story of exemplary history of promotion of the project, the center of which was made by a talented, hard-working artist who died young at 37 years old.
Two brothers, artdilerov made a breakthrough in the history of art as planned.

They were two young men. Theo left his elder brother at young - at 34.

The ambitious plan is not overshadowed his lifetime sales: except for "Vineyard" has sold several paintings in exhibitions since 1887.
And he participated in exhibitions is also quite "noisy".
In any case, even 14-Th officially stated in the literature of lifetime sales - not a small amount for the "budding artist". And how many were actually more?

The level of ambition of price can be judged by the sale of "Vineyard" - 5000 euros, based on current salaries of employees. And that, after almost 5 years after the start of operations.

Van Gogh received numerous lifetime of critics.

Summary: to promote its something original art work on the market to-
1.Vlitsya or organize a group of companions of artists. Group to break easily.
2.Obmenivatsya in the group for his work.
3.Poznakomitsya most successful with an important artdilerov, and with his support, push yourself and the group.
4.Inogda participate in group and solo exhibitions. And certainly interpose on all the "ball."
5.Obschatsya with art critics in person, writing about myself alone all kinds of nonsense, and to report on exhibitions in the media, especially popularizing themselves, of course.
6.Vsemu give the "flashy"-the name of his band, the direction in art, if not, invent something close to the true type-postmodern, ie gently stretch the brain. Giving names to their exhibitions, his workshop, ...
7.Lezt at auction.
8.Nu and of course the ever lie to you, it may not lie to you, that you are the brightest representatives of the art of this period in the history of art.
9.Ustraivat group apartment exhibitions in advance inviting them critics, gallery owners, dealers, collectors. Drinking on them, and have a snack. Familiar enjoyable to help.
Give critics and gallery owners and average work schedule - such as their full-length portraits. Integrating them into its sphere of desires to increase sales and to integrate themselves into the environment, leaving the role of significant persons art process.
10.A such "trifles" as an opportunity to create good jobs for a few days, is also not to be missed. Although, maybe this is hidden and the Sorcerer's Stone.

And 11. It is necessary to have the talent, hard work and the widest erudition, and of artistic taste. The rest will follow.

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Сообщение от Artoil-A (Сообщение 2722521)

I accidentally gave a list of artists that are more or less effectively in these hyped genres and styles.

They do work, but on copying the old oleography and pornography.

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Сообщение от Jasmin (Сообщение 2722551)

had something to say to mankind

This common phrase.
We can say that this artistic intuition?
If you remember, he described himself as an impressionist.
He passed their school and developed his own style, the most suitable to him.
Is that better?

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Сообщение от artcol; 2722341"

I think Peter is not specific personalities had in mind, but just a descriptive set of criteria by which we deem artist successfully promoted.

Of course. Simply this is a set of criteria personalities.

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Сообщение от Fed; 2722511"

to promote its something original art work on the market to-
1.Vlitsya or organize a group of companions of artists. Group to break easily.
2.Obmenivatsya in the group for his work.
3.Poznakomitsya most successful with an important artdilerov, and with his support, push yourself and the group.
4.Inogda participate in group and solo exhibitions. And certainly interpose on all the "ball."
5.Obschatsya with art critics in person, writing about myself alone all kinds of nonsense, and to report on exhibitions in the media, especially popularizing themselves, of course.
6.Vsemu give the "flashy"-the name of his band, the direction in art, if not, invent something close to the true type-postmodern, ie gently stretch the brain. Giving names to their exhibitions, his workshop, ...
7.Lezt at auction.
8.Nu and of course the ever lie to you, it may not lie to you, that you are the brightest representatives of the art of this period in the history of art.
9.A such "trifles" as an opportunity to create good jobs for a few days, is also not to be missed. Although, maybe this is hidden and the Sorcerer's Stone.

And chocolate medal is provided to you.
As small children, all believe in fairy tales.
To unleash the artist needed: Power, Respect, Money!
If you have this base, then later all the criteria can be entered.
The example in the same topic was. Several centuries before was Velasquez and his best friend, King Philip IV, and Leonardo?, He had friends but Francis I? Today Hurst. Without major backers no one will spin!

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2722591)

Dear , are you always here not in the subject , because kitsch is not art . It's like stale sausage patties or stale . What you have to sell this to you, but it is here to see prices on the artists , and not about how to sell bazaar pictures.

That is, you deny the activity combines art , art workshops and trades under the wing of the local authorities.
Then I bow to your sense of self importance in the world of art .
Alas, I am a supporter of mass production - less costs for advertising , trade and regularly fees , although they are not fabulous . Accordingly, we can plan for the future and decades to earn income ..

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Сообщение от Artoil-A (Сообщение 2722671)

and decades to earn income ..

- Yes, man is mortal, but it would be so bad.
The bad news is that it sometimes sudden death, that's the trick!
In general, one can say that he will do tonight. (c) <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 2722561 "

in 1900, only three paintings went on public sale for a fairly modest amounts not exceeding one thousand francs .

How do you say modest - one picture for 16 teachers salaries at that time.
The artist would have been 47 years old . At 57 , he 'd be a star, and that without the participation of himself and his brother .

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Сообщение от Artem ; 2722651 "

To promote the artist needs : Power, Respect , Money !

Do not really understand how it applies to all artists . For example, Sutin with 29 years in what does not deny , although the promotion went quite usual for today means not the most well-known dealer.

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 2722701)

artist would be 47 years.
At 57, he'd be a star, and that without the participation of himself and his brother.

And I know.

Let me remind you that the current stars - Gerhard Richter, born in 1932, and Jasper Johns at 1930.

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 2722701)

How to tell modest - one picture for 16 teachers salaries at that time.

The artist would have been 47 years old.
At 57, he'd be a star, and that without the participation of himself and his brother.

By the way, in Russia in the 80's and 90's the artist in Moscow received about the same relative fees for the painting.