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Хранитель укропа 14.08.2013 20:09

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Сообщение от Artoil-A (Сообщение 2518621)
Keach and commercial art is not in need of sponsors. Moreover , bringing a steady income . Switching to kitsch requires serious research and additional training of the artist, who was standard training . Well, the artist will be sponsored , in anticipation of the great and eternal , as a commercial artist will nail down the money ... By the way , the income kitsch brings decades.
Naturally, the household will not appreciate the genius is not held .

Artoil-A, there are no general recipes , each with its own path and passion . Life and circumstances - not the movie , the script can not live <! - ~ 1 ~ -> .

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Сообщение от Artoil-A (Сообщение 2521031)
Summarize the discussion.
The first group of arts managers to maximize winnings. The most desperate believe that they can promote any artist, even criminal producer art collector and sell his works instead of dumping the rich, even with riskomi beysbolinga in their bones.
The second group of arts managers is set to minimize the loss, engaged in the organization of production and marketing of kitsch, which is profitable, allows legal existence, and the production effectively for decades as constructed by continuously monitoring customer inquiries.
There is another group of participants arts managers - crime. On Internet forums, it is usually represented by trolling. Especially those annoying questions trolls legal production
and implementation of the art products. The presence of such a rapid reaction force of the criminal art menedzhement checked throw, some of the topics for discussion and to provoke trolling "non-resistance to evil." My opinion is that managers who seek the services of criminals should otflazhkovyvat as wolves and do not work with them any business.
    Indeed, there is a national system of documents accompanying the process of implementation of any product. If there is a deviation from this, it is very likely or theft of artworks, or fee. And none of the criminal courts will not help the manufacturer of art products.

I can not agree with you for one reason, you juggle examples, definitions and categories with nonchalance cod spawning.
Well, it is no longer fashionable .. stories about new Russian morons with bags of loot nowhere fallen down on their heads and milling around the shops ... About the State is also not necessary with such pathos - is pink idealism to believe in "his" wisdom. State - is a pack of officials in their clan interests.

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Сообщение от Artoil-A (Сообщение 2601621)
Then the question is: "How to promote a criminal artist opposes the tax authorities and not get in retaliation reproach?"


I can not cast in granite, simply exhausted <! - ~ 1 ~ ->!
Artoil-A, so you really are?

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 2649201)
Eloquent examples exist in the forum, who read it carefully themselves can result.
Still, I will name some : Boris Kocheyshvili , Sergey Alferov, Lucy Voronov .

Enough ?

Sure enough .. gift is not necessary . In the trend of people , of course , no words .. as an investment - yes, if the wall is categorical - no. See it every day - the higher forces <! - ~ 1 ~ -> . Although there is no accounting for tastes , to each his own .

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 2649261)
Unfortunately for us, it's a different country.


Another would be added Oleg Dou.


I agree, very interesting artist.

Хранитель укропа 15.08.2013 10:55

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 2708981)
Cyril Syzransky, unlike you , I was in Krumlov and saw these pictures, they can be considered as lost .. A few years ago, experts counted down the days until the collapse of the dollar and the U.S.. Where are the experts and where the dollar ? U.S. economically grow stronger day by day ..

Yes, there are still ringing oracles .. Stepan Demura , Michael Hazin Kalashnikov again .. pohlesche predicting disaster in 1998 with a turn of autumn 2013 - 2014 .. We are waiting ..

Кирилл Сызранский 15.08.2013 11:05

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Сообщение от Guardian of dill 2715861
predict disaster pohlesche 1998 with a turn of autumn 2013 - 2014 ..
We are waiting ..

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Хранитель укропа 15.08.2013 11:07

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Сообщение от Artem (Сообщение 2709681)
can be more?

You often ask or answer questions on the forum where people have not, and we can be closer to the audience ?

Fed, but let's shoot them all ?

Clube <! - ~ 7 ~ -> interest ?
Pablo, you do not want to get there , you do not respect this initially . Subconscious says - " not necessary" , and consciousness - " it is necessary, there is in fact something to give !"))

Artem I carefully read with footnotes ... 300 pages but do not swallow as a glass of beer <! - ~ 1 ~ -> . Already ironing heritage somewhere on page 270 ..

Кирилл Сызранский 15.08.2013 11:24

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Сообщение от Guardian of dill 2715901
Already ironing heritage somewhere on page 270 ..

Why do you need it?
You are also an amateur artist who dreams of promotion?

Хранитель укропа 15.08.2013 20:42

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 2710091)
.. already honored and 300 euros are quite normal on the wall even unusual man . To 800 - a great choice. Well , 1000 I wrote , you can find a real work of art.

Price report is compiled .
P.S. That's a bummer , then malevantsam with artnau .

Will announce the list of claims , please .. what did you mean by " That's a bummer , then malevantsam with Artnau "?

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 2715911)
Why do you need it?
You are also an amateur artist who dreams of promotion?

 
<! - ~ 1 ~ -> I do not suffer from this, and you, Cyril?

There is nothing whatever to dare the human imagination, is not it <! - ~ 1 ~ ->.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 2715891)
Bah, you still virginal innocent. <! - ~ 7 ~ ->
It is good that you wrote this - it is clear who you're dealing with whom you talk .

I want to yawn to your objection ,
Words - dung .. producing fertilizer ...

Yes, and I did not want to comment on is your motto in Puxi Wright, a very " good that you wrote this - it is clear who you're dealing with whom you talk ," <! - ~ 1 ~ -> .

Better let's keep to the subject dispute. Or are you applying for the ultimate truth , even in matters of the views of other participants in the dispute ?
Can be easier to put a mirror in front <! - ~ 1 ~ -> .
Best regards .

Pavel 16.08.2013 07:54

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 2715911)
Why do you need it? You are also an amateur artist who dreams of promotion ?

What kind of question ruskrutke <! - ~ 1 ~ -> You might think that you can promote someone nibud.Vy for which the picture with fig Putin priceless masterpiece of an artist of genius , and with fig Navalny mediocre , untalented artist thing . <! - ~ 7 ~ -> <! - ~ 7 ~ -> <! - ~ 7 ~ ->
This is called politmrazmotizm and not treated.

Konstantin 16.08.2013 11:21

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2716991)
This is called politmrazmotizm and untreated.

Pavel of you in this thread so far only criticism of all that is written here.
A substantive topics have suggestions, observations, tips, personal experience in the end?

Pavel 16.08.2013 12:12

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 2717141)
Pavel of you in this thread so far only criticism of all that is written here . A substantive topics have suggestions , observations , tips , personal experience in the end ?

I rattled off a lot of things here , but to no avail . It is necessary to untwist those who deserve it , not those who pay , or someone like that. It is always and everywhere is determined at the shows, by comparison . Everything else is from the evil one .

Кирилл Сызранский 16.08.2013 12:43

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Сообщение от Guardian of dill 2716541 "
Yes, and I did not want to comment on is your motto in Puxi Wright, a very " good that you wrote this - it is clear who you're dealing with whom you talk "

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Either you're for " pusey " - and then approve their action - or against it, and then you're for Putin for the aggressive rhetoric of the church authorities , for nanopyl and Breguet .
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