Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство (https://forum.artinvestment.ru/index.php)
-   Art Kaleidoscope (https://forum.artinvestment.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=236)
-   -   The process for the exhibition "Forbidden Art 2006" is nearing completion (https://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=78602)

SergeiSK 04.08.2010 12:47

Job M. Roginsky - the only worthy work at this exhibition.

Konstantin 04.08.2010 13:32

Цитата:

Well, what it says on the mat, so do not worry
This is similar to the double standards. No?

Surprisingly, you (the opponents of the exhibition, SergeiSK not specifically appeal to you) always leads the conversation away. All the time trying to tell us that the pictures of trash, artists even worse, so little they vkatali. At the right time at least 25 years, and preferably directly on Butovsky ground.

In my question is much broader - we are a secular state? Or is religious?
If religious then why schools teach the theory of Darwin? Atheist is no longer possible? If someone will give a lecture on the origin of man and does not mention Adam and Eve - it would offend the faithful?

SergeiSK 04.08.2010 13:59

Цитата:

Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 1216912)
This is similar to the double standards. No?
Surprisingly, you (the opponents of the exhibition, SergeiSK not specifically appeal to you) always leads the conversation away. All the time trying to tell us that the pictures of trash, artists even worse, so little they vkatali. At the right time at least 25 years, and preferably directly on Butovsky ground.

This is similar to that near the peat apparently burned hemp fields :D
No double standards! And Russian obscenities are not with it. and "with it" just a blatant mockery of the icons and the church on this ill-fated show.
"Just ..."
But a picture, then trash all the same. Except for the above, my opinion.
But an atheist be no bans, a 70-years, the country lived, though, and then there were many believers and faith was true, but now largely become fashionable. But that is another question. And so frank mockery of Christian values to all the usual shocks. I'm sure that atheists, too, wonder. And no art here, but there is a selfish and cheap PR.
Darwin's theory do not believe in the Church of the forehead on the floor did not break it but I think that any religion worthy of respect.
I think the discussion went on the second-third round ... And everyone was (and remains) to his own opinion.

Konstantin 04.08.2010 15:30

Цитата:

Сообщение от SergeiSK (Сообщение 1217002)
frank mockery of Christian values to all the usual shocks

Mockery mockery alike. The matter then they sew (sewed already) on incitement to religious hatred. This, in my opinion, quite untrue. And then only take Soutine with its carcasses. In India the cow a sacred animal, what should I do?
My opinion is - what artists do in their works (as it were mediocre or ugly they were not) is their art and business. If the state authorities so preoccupied morality, could compel the organizers to hang warning sign (supposedly warn believers ... and so on), to deprive the state subsidies if they are. And all. But if some people have real the attributes of a cult and their use (I'm not talking mock) in his works, here, yes, the church and the faithful has the right to rebel.

Кирилл Сызранский 04.08.2010 15:38

Цитата:

Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 1217252)
If the state authorities so preoccupied morals, could compel the organizers to hang warning sign (supposedly warn believers ... etc.)

Organisers warned:
Цитата:

The exhibits are hidden from the eyes of spectators falshstenoy. These are available on a piecemeal scrutiny through small openings in the wall. The authors' names and titles of works listed in labels. We invite visitors to express their views on the issue in the book reviews. These comments will be transmitted to the site www.gif.ru
Visit the exhibition is not recommended for individuals under 16 years.
To photograph the exhibits in the exhibition hall is prohibited.

The book reviews you can express your opinion about the correctness or error of censorship action against the exposed works.
http://www.sakharov-center.ru/museum...forbidden-art/

artcol 05.08.2010 13:10

In contrast to the organizers and participants of the Fair "Forbidden Art" These people call my solidarity with them (just the same 10 years ago).
Good for shorter!

C with a bucket on his head
Hiding from the authorities Lenya E ... explained the request of the "New" its political and aesthetic principles

"Dude the new generation has no fear in the genes of these bloodsuckers," "Here I grew up going to a deputy's face and bash it to Lena," "We have no buckets!", "Beautiful, Lenya!", "Sense of proportion left guys. It is a pity, "" Too bad he did not tumbled as follows, "I support ... other ways to fight no longer exists", "Do not be without the circus?"

It's all laid out in the comments to YouTube videos where a guy over the head with a blue bucket climbs onto the roof of FSO car and runs away, no one caught. 378,549 views, 418 comments. A guy named Leonid Nikolaev. However, after the rally with a bucket, he is better known as Leonid E. .., and his colleagues launched an entire PR campaign with a call to elect a "man-bucket" for the presidency.

Only the presidential campaign is out of the underground: a week after the rally for Lenya policemen came, was taken to court, but he would not plead and was lost sight of the special services. Then he appeared in the media space as one of the participants hands-on action Liteynom bridge (remember: the artists painted a 65-meter long phallus in front of the FSB). Phone Leni Nikolaeva for two months off. But about yourself and about why he does it, Lenya agreed to tell in the explanatory note for the "New":
Читать дальше... 

Generally, stocks of War "developed as a group together and have a collective authorship. Someone throws the idea. Her take and discuss. In discussing the script actions sometimes changing beyond recognition. All this is a normal working process, which daily living group. The idea with a big bucket, depriving opportunities to see, invented the Thief (the nickname of one of the participants. - Approx. Ed.). And then we started to work on it. The kid immediately offered to put three buckets - for greater importance. But now the campaign has already belongs to the entire Russian people, not just the "War" and Lena E. .. Here's an example of a truly popular art! I was also chosen to play the main character to be tested for strength and e * nutost. Such verification takes place every activist "War", the incoming group.

We believe a public response one of the most important components of our shares. The public reaction - full extension shares in the public sphere. This action takes an unusual extent, that nowadays replaces the outstanding work of art ever.

After the bucket first, all supported me - and supporters of the Solidarity movement, and friends. But then, when I decided to send the court s ..., some turned away. Is becoming the same old paradox: the opposition wants to fight against the criminal regime, but obsequiously seeks always to comply with its criminal laws. That is why the WHO and the opposition is now there. And will be there until such time as we all do not understand that such laws should be send to the x ...

I'm not going to court. Because the court is not. In Russia there is no court and no justice - and it is well known. What is now happening in trials across the country, has no relation to legal proceedings. This is only the arbitrariness of the authorities, that openly mock the population. Calling this court can not, and why waste time on stupid bazaars cops and judges are not worth it. Now, this minute, we must concentrate on the fight. And yet they let themselves judged.

True, the cops again made another attempt to kidnap me from my own apartment. They acted the same way as in the past abduction on May 28. They came to me for registration and seriously thought that I'm still there. But - hop hocus pocus - I was not there. Hence the conclusion: the activists, not dwell on registration! Be true partisans.

It seems that we have no fear. Fear slows down and severely hampered the work. Therefore, "War" has decided nothing was ever afraid. I really like it myself, and I support the decision of the group.

With regard to disputes concerning the inadmissibility of the methods, I would say this: in mortal combat with the enemy, all means are good. And the methods of "War" - especially. After "War" is the creation of a new political language that can adequately speak of the reality. For example, our latest campaign "How ch ... dit hen" of the textbook "War" for a street activist. The first paragraph. "How to live without money." The rally was held under the slogan: "Bezblyadno. In the West, this event is free and with interest being discussed and analyzed. But our public has only groans and sighs, prudish affectation and bad screaming. As Russia is still very immature audience, not ready to talk and discuss, in principle. People have no language to talk about it. Street writhes tongueless before "war". So by talking, we have so far only, activists and artists. And this new language, we will promote and enforce. We will let you understand that there is discourse in Russia!

An activist of the "War" - and an artist and a politician at a time. And in addition, many who have. The task of the action - not to reduce and expand options, and in this sense, "War" is strained.

In the new creation "War" dare depict the collapse of financial illusion that Russia has given up recently. And as we continue to work on a textbook for a young activist called "E. .. ites themselves. " It will be made in the form of tutorial. This kind of primer in the basics for anyone who wants to become a great street artist and activist. What an illustrated to do list for all occasions. How to live without money, we have already explained. There is still a lot of issues and topics.

And more. "War" supports civil protest initiative. And I personally will do everything in my power.

Konstantin 10.08.2010 14:01

On "Ren-TV" has appeared in the archive transfer "penalty for art."

Кирилл Сызранский 10.08.2010 14:12


Konstantin 10.08.2010 14:22

About Anapku donkey?

Posav 10.08.2010 14:43

The program of pop says that we live in a common home, and Samodurov retorted "Let's split.


Часовой пояс GMT +3, время: 05:10.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Перевод: zCarot