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Posav 09-05-2010 13:01

Friends and comrades, was opened on an interesting topic, but someone just turned the arrow in rugachku about 90 years. Here would like to use time and power and remind the name of the topic and move all of Off Topic to "fight club" of the topic.

Кирилл Сызранский 09-05-2010 13:09

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Originally Posted by Tana (Post 1085102)
Abramovich, Deripaska, Prokhorov, Akhmetov

And most do not know the names?
All, only these four?
But rich people are much more. And, okay rich, easy-off. So let's say.
If you do not know held business, which began with vouchers to create their own empire and holdings, does not mean that they are not.
I'll give you right now a link to an article about collectors. It businessmen and wealthy individuals. They stole my money? Got inheritance? Won Millions at Sportloto?
Here, look:
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Originally Posted by Vladimir (Post 1077982)
Blitz-story about the major public collectors http://www.vashdosug.ru/exhibition/article/61682/

You can still promptly inserted the names of wealthy businessmen, collectors. All of them are bandits, prihvatizatory???
:D :D :D

artcol 09-05-2010 13:13

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Originally Posted by Cyril Syzranskiy (Post 1085122)
My something Pobol ...
I drink a cast that so far this series does not stand up.
And who is to drink something made so something to the grave?

Kirill, this is not vodka, it is - heroin.

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Originally Posted by Cyril Syzranskiy (Post 1085122)
Dermokraty and prihvatizatory ?
Yes, and strangely developed from a young man to hear such things ...
You did not hurt at all and all for his life worthless uncle of 50, I, for example. :D

This is not my idea, and I'm not offended to life. I am angry at those who nailed Russian under the plinth for his narrow-mindedness, greed, etc. And here all tried - and Democrats, Communists and monarchists.

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At the beginning of XX century, Mendeleev, noting that the population of the Russian Empire in the last forty years has doubled [43], calculated that by 2050 its population will reach 800 million people.
You have a lot of interesting things to know about the lost opportunities of Russia in his writings (ekonomich. orientation).

Vladimir 09-05-2010 13:14

17 May - seminar about investing in contemporary art
 
Liber in line: May 17, planned a seminar on investment in contemporary art http://artinvestment.ru/invest/seminars/There will speak about the problems, but the main thing - about the practice. That is where to invest in any of the authors, without evasive phrases, and stories about the wrong eye.

Кирилл Сызранский 09-05-2010 13:15

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Originally Posted by Vyacheslav (Post 1081152)
First of all, not whether you swung widely, speaking about such a comprehensive concept of a" Russian Art "?

No, not widely, Shirshov have yet shiree. :D
Somehow like this:
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Originally Posted by Chernomashentsev Vladimir (Post 1084682)
Problems and myths of contemporary art of the ex-USSR.

- Vasily Ivanovich, and you command the army mogesh "
- Can.
- A Front?
- May, Petya, I can.
- And all the armed forces of the Republic?
- The smallness of the brush up, I can and the armed forces.
- Well, well ... a global scale, Vasily Ivanovich, master?
- No, do not do it, languages do not know.
(c) :D

artcol 09-05-2010 13:15

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Originally Posted by Cyril Syzranskiy (Post 1085152)
And do not know the names?
All, only these four?
But rich people are much more. And, okay rich, easy-off. So let's say.
If you do not know held business, which began with vouchers to create their own empire and holdings, does not mean that they are not.
I'll give you right now a link to an article about collectors. It businessmen and wealthy individuals. They stole my money? Got inheritance? Won Millions at Sportloto?
Here, look:

You can still promptly inserted the names of wealthy businessmen, collectors. All of them are bandits, prihvatizatory???
:D :D :D

Yes, Cyril, is the glory of God the normal, intelligent, courageous people.

Кирилл Сызранский 09-05-2010 13:21

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Originally Posted by artcol (Post 1085162)
is not vodka, it is - heroin.

Horseradish radish not Slash: young-gerych, senior-dinaturat and tincture of hawthorn ...
This looks like some kind of wiring:
Drugs - is impossible, but can vodka.
(c) :D
And about gerych I can tell my friends son. He has friends from school-mates, friends buried ... All this is familiar, artcol, you know yourself where I live, we have it in a big way was Samara, bold, parading ... :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by artcol (Post 1085162)
At the beginning of XX century, Mendeleev, noting that the population of the Russian Empire in the last forty years has doubled [43], calculated that by 2050 its population will reach 800 million people.

Yes, it would be 600 million
But what had dermokraty and prihvatizatory?
Do not climb I had a fight in the Balkans because of these morons nationalists who the heir of Austria-Hungary in Sarajevo with his wife shot ...
Since the First World War and started something ... Vaughan when yet! Loss of armed forces in all states participating in World War I amounted to about 10 million people.
And then the war turned into a revolution, the October Revolution, the Civil ...

sur 09-05-2010 13:37

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Originally Posted by Samvel (Post 1084622)
Yes you are right, I repeated, I just liked this expression. Personally for me it was terrible years, Moscow ruled by bandits, and was not political leadership, but just gang, national, and internatsionalnye.Mnogie residents might not notice this, because living at home in the yard, by inertia.

 Then it was so, but Russia still had chances. As a result, someone arrested, someone put in place. And now ruled by who? And how can you win? Our country is eating itself. How can we win the war with ourselves?

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Originally Posted by Cyril Syzranskiy (Post 1085122)
My lot Pobol ...
I drink a cast that so far in this series does not get up.

 I also tossed. The other day he buried his childhood friend he was 37 years. I could not find a use .. Peel ...

  Our grandmothers and grandfathers, fathers and mothers have won in the terrible massacre that lasted four years. Killed tens of millions of our fellow citizens. Ta victory was cost mobilize all country and each its citizenship.
 We must remember what the price was given this victory to our people.
 We must not lose the country had won for us by our ancestors.

  All of the Great Victory Day!
  Good fighting mood!

  Especially the warm greetings to veterans, well you you health and attention from relatives.

artcol 09-05-2010 13:43

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Originally Posted by Cyril Syzranskiy (Post 1085222)
Yes, it would be 600 million
But what had dermokraty and prihvatizatory?
Do not climb I had a fight in the Balkans because of these morons nationalists who the heir of Austria-Hungary in Sarajevo with his wife shot ...
Since the First World War and started something ... Vaughan when yet! Loss of armed forces in all states participating in World War I amounted to about 10 million people.
And then the war turned into a revolution, the October Revolution, the Civil ...

Agreed. Not-for-Yes! And all this heroism and sacrifice are needed when you have friends and family to protect, not some abstract Slav brothers, the Emperor, the supreme or the general secretary.

Кирилл Сызранский 09-05-2010 15:41

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Originally Posted by Vladimir (Post 1085172)
There will be talk about problems, but the main thing - about the practice.

I think the first time such a seminar, "the practice"?

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Originally Posted by Vladimir (Post 1085172)
That is, where to invest in any of the authors, without evasive phrases, and stories about the wrong eye.

In the past, I remember just practical advice and avoid, say about this: "Here at Bohamse will Nemukhin. We must take through the year at 55-65%%podorazhaet."

Vladimir 09-05-2010 16:24

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Originally Posted by Cyril Syzranskiy (Post 1085522)
Earlier, I remember just practical advice, and avoiding, not talking about this:" Here at Bohamse on June 7 will Nemukhin. We must take one year to 55-65%%podorazhaet. "

This format is applied council - we are even in articles such things give (free). The workshops have a name, the dynamics, the price level at which work better to pay attention and prognosis. About what Nemukhin a year to 55-65%we are not talking, because do not think so. In terms of the figure is too optimistic. But progress is expected and why we tell on May 19 at another seminar - from the sixties (unofficial post-war art). At a seminar about expert price advice was not all. There was a chip in the other - to reduce the victimization, "dangerous behavior."

Peter 09-05-2010 16:44

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Originally Posted by sur (Post 1085262)
We must not lose the country had won for us by our ancestors.

These words should be carved out of stone and set somewhere near the Eternal Flame, the tomb of the Unknown Soldier!

Кирилл Сызранский 09-05-2010 17:09

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Originally Posted by Vladimir (Post 1085682)
The workshops have names, trends, price levels, on what works best to pay attention and prognosis.

I remembered this:

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Originally Posted by Konstantin (Post 932352)
At the seminar "How raskratit artist" was requested to give more examples of successful promotion is not record-breakers-millionaires, and "our" brother's medium (so far) hands. That was two years ago, "conditional Sidorov, $ 500, as a result of such an action, was $ 10.5 tons.
People need a positive example.
Participants of the forum to you I call, there is such an example?

And this:
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Originally Posted by Konstantin (Post 619236)
interested in modern artists in the age, I have set for ourselves, to 50 years. And the prices at which up to 10 000 $. And for those that above 10 000 $, the main question for so many, and whether to grow further.

And now this:
 
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Originally Posted by Vladimir (Post 619316)
you get is not an investment asset with reasonable risk, and predictability, and most prestigious consumption, which is intended to emphasize your status and bring aesthetic pleasure. For this and pay. In addition, in the commodity and laid lottery potential. A successful set of circumstances the price of some products may grow in value many times over.

A Nemukhin I'm ready mentioned, for example.
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Originally Posted by Vladimir (Post 1085682)
About what Nemukhin a year to 55-65%we are not talking, because do not think so.

I know other authors who are not in a year, but at the end of this year will have more of today's prices at 55-65%%and HIGHER!

Vladimir 09-05-2010 17:24

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Originally Posted by Cyril Syzranskiy (Post 1085822)
At the seminar "How raskratit artist" was requested to give more examples of successful promotion is not record-breakers-millionaires, and "our" brother's medium (so far) hands. That was two years ago, "conditional Sidorov, $ 500, as a result of such an action, was 5-10 v. $.

This is not about investments in modern, but about promotion. Just another seminar. Methods of making guaranteed for 2 years "Sidorov" for $ 500 in "Sidorov" for 10 thousand dollars - a level of alchemy and Noe Gedenidze. The seminars on investment in the contemporary art gallery-discussed contemporary artists, "aktualschiki", artists from the "holder". No miraculous transformation, but from the category of reality.

Кирилл Сызранский 09-05-2010 19:29

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Originally Posted by Vladimir (Post 1085172)
fiber in line: May 17, planned seminar on investment in contemporary art http://artinvestment.ru/invest/seminars/ There will speak about the problems, but the main thing - about practice. That is where to invest in any of the authors, without evasive phrases, and stories about the wrong eye.

In fact, very interesting:
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Actual art, postmodernism and postart - here a lot is not defined, and the risks greater than in classical art, auction have accumulated statistics. But at the same prices available and the stakes are high. It is thus in a segment of contemporary art than anywhere else, you can do sverhpribylnye investments. It is clear that there need extra care: it is important not to get involved, so as not to throw good money after bad. What criteria govern the purchase? On this and talk.


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