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Кирилл Сызранский 10.02.2010 15:11

Konstantin, shown you pictures show some drawbacks, nadorabotki on the ground.


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Eriksson 10.02.2010 15:26

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Konstantin, shown you pictures show some drawbacks, nadorabotki field .




Oh no! This is just another country. This Russia - is the one that shows us t.Tyutchev.

Кирилл Сызранский 10.02.2010 15:48

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Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 904352)
The real Russia - is the one that shows us t.Tyutchev.

He showed the Soviet Union, and this is really a different country. In the literal sense.
And it has not and will never happen.
I know, I know- never say never ... :D not the case. :)

Konstantin 10.02.2010 15:55

Eriksson, of course more complicated. Not correct to say that the photos laid Tyutchev: - do not reflect reality, and it was all wrong, and so on in a circle. Take for example the eternal film "Irony of Fate or Enjoy Your Bath" it also reflects nothing but the film at all times. I've put pictures of queues and counters, as it were in opposition, but in fact it is not correct, because it is an art but a way of life. And no need to pursue art medical details of life. Photos Umida Akhmedova of course a pity that the art does not understand power.

Eriksson 10.02.2010 16:22

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 904382)
He showed the Soviet Union, and this is really a different country. In the literal sense.
And it has not and will never happen.
I know, I know- never say never ... :D "But this is not the case. :)

Oh, Cyril, how I wish that you were right! Another 7.8 years ago I would have been in solidarity with you 100%.

Not want to politicize the forum, but since we were talking ... http://www.novayagazeta.ru/data/2010/007/10.html

This thing will be stronger Marx's Capital.

Тютчев 10.02.2010 16:32

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 904262)
We here in the admin burst when the wind blows on the water, fearing that any discussion about politics or the former Soviet Union ends squabble. This has in part, and I even venture to support it.

I also love seen old pictures

Konstantin, judging from the store interior is the beginning of the 90's. The beginning of change! I can even pinpoint the number and the year when this happened. This is the period between October 18, 1991 and January 2, 1992. Empty shelves in stores is just the result of the premature announcement of the liberalization of prices. Then the Soviet trade has ceased to exist. In these two months there was nothing in the shops. Remember? Yes it was difficult times! Coming on the 90-s ...
Of course there were crises in the Soviet era (consumer crises 69-year and 79 th - 81 th period), but there were crises in the capitalist countries. Ordinary people and there is not sweet in such periods. It is naive to believe that the West was Money for abundance!

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 904402)
Eriksson, of course more complicated. Not correct to say that the photos laid Tyutchev: - do not reflect reality, and it was all wrong, and so on in a circle. Take for example the eternal film "Irony of Fate or Enjoy Your Bath" it also reflects nothing but the film at all times.

You're right Konstantin, things are not so simple! 20 th century in Russia was very difficult! Our fathers and mothers had much experience, civil war, famine, the Great Patriotic ... But they lived! Fell in love, bore children, rejoice, grieve, dream and create, no matter what! So you can not hang labels on people and the era!

Konstantin 10.02.2010 16:57

All the talk about the + and - the former Soviet Union always ends up closing the topic and banami. Let's about image.

Тютчев 10.02.2010 17:09

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Сообщение от Sim (Сообщение 903672)
Tjutchev, I, of course, the movies are not a specialist. What would they not want to do, in my opinion, turned out a parody of the French "new wave". There was a famous film "Paris vu par" - six short stories - Godard, Chabrol, etc. So there all the time different pairs of breakfast and swear. Or a guy with a prostitute at supper (they really do not swear). This easy absurdets existential being, some stories, however, ends sadly. Ridiculous obtained from the French - what movies do, all the Kalashnikov is obtained.


Seema, about the French cinema you aptly wrote (chip chop)! Incidentally, I do not like Godard, Chabrol and that's very even. But this little movie (post#18), of course, on the other. On the peculiarities of perception of stereotypes, myths, national selfishness, and so on ... I thought that the movie in comic form illustrates the attitude of the West toward Russia. But I am not around to blame the West is partly to blame, and Russia. Especially in the fact that it is passive and does not generate its image in the world. That is not doing what it has long been actively engaged in world powers. This world is very cruel! And so Russia can not be careless in these matters! We must constantly work!

USSR, by the way that it takes much more effort in this direction! And the French and Americans in this dog eat!

Кирилл Сызранский 10.02.2010 17:12

Вложений: 7
1. Late 80's. The queue at the bakery (Leningrad. Ligovskiy. From the "bread at home" to "Forge").
2. 1990 - Down with the Communist Party, give freedom. Leningrad. (when not overclocked).
3. Coupons (see the date on them).
4. Coupons for food. 1989 to May 1992. Leningrad. It is not for the poor - this is for all (tobacco, vodka, flour, cereals, pasta, oil, meat idèles, ...).
5. Voucher for sugar (see date).
6. Talon of vodka (see date).
7. Talon on tobacco products (see date).
And so on and so forth

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Кирилл Сызранский 10.02.2010 17:15

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Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 904472)
Do not want to politicize the forum, but since we were talking ... http://www.novayagazeta.ru/data/2010/007/10.html

I have it Latynina read. Interesting, but in print it akkuratnichaet, but in HEDGEHOG wets from the soul "vertuhal" ...

Posted 40 minutes
Good poems remembered Lev Rubinstein in an article about Umida Akhmedova.
 We must remember them and the author, who in the Soviet Union for his novel herbs like the wolf, and is famous "I have not read, but the blame!" *, and now all the rave about this product.
Incidentally, in the West, it is understood at once, it becomes clear by looking only to the number of translations into the languages of the world and to remember those wonderful film adaptation.

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Boris Pasternak
  
 Nobel Prize

I lost, like a beast at bay.
Somewhere people will, light,
And for me the noise of the chase,
I go out there.

Dark woods and pond,
Ate felled logs.
The road is cut off from everywhere.
Whether that will happen anyway.

What I did for the dirty,
I'm a murderer and a villain?
I made the world weep
Above the beauty of my land.

But even so, almost at the coffin,
I believe I am, the time will come --
Silas meanness and malice
Will overcome the spirit of goodness.

_______________________
* These words are not fictitious, with They really started the speech prosecutors involved power structures. The persecution was widespread. Accusing the rallies took place in factories in the middle of the day, they necessarily reduces the entire staff; collective letters published in newspapers, were read on the radio. In the prosecutors were involved as people who have no relation to the literature (weavers, farmers, employees of factories), and professional writers. Read a book they really could not, because it was banned, but they could not refuse the role of prosecutors.

Grigory 10.02.2010 19:31

News on the case
 
Umida was found guilty on all counts, without mitigation - and then pardoned in connection with the 18 anniversary of Independence of the Republic of Uzbekistan ...

http://uznews.net/news_single.php?ln...d=14&nid=12633

Кирилл Сызранский 10.02.2010 19:36

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Сообщение от Grigory (Сообщение 904862)
Umida was found guilty on all counts, without mitigation - and then pardoned in connection with the 18 anniversary of Independence of the Republic of Uzbekistan ...

As stated: and the wolves are fed and the sheep are safe. (c)
Or so much: capital to buy and innocence to be met. (c)
:D

Eriksson 10.02.2010 21:55

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 904872)
The style of the sentence reminded me of some posts on our forum.

This is exactly !:D

Posav 10.02.2010 22:27

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 904582)
Let's about image.

Documentary photography can be so subjective as individual paintings. Its value is in objectivity.
As can experiment on the same street nafotografirovat ugly people, drunks, or vice versa beautiful, intelligent and carefree. Even the same person can be photographed when he smiles or contrary to wait when he shmygnet nose, take pictures and sign a "well, ugly ":). It depends on what goals the person who photographed.

Konstantin 11.02.2010 00:13

So?
Photograph beautiful people do not find fault means a country and people? A beautiful photograph meant to reflect the truth of life?


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