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ранжер 05.11.2009 11:29

Strongly agree. On social and mental ones - only good, but admiration for them. But you capped another cuckoo. She, in response to someone stated in such a way that if the artist X in CHBS (Miracle Base Site) do not, you and not at all.

Allena 05.11.2009 12:57

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Сообщение от ranzher (Сообщение 679884)
you capped another cuckoo. She, in response to someone stated in such a way that if the artist X in CHBS (Miracle Base Site) do not, you and not at all.

ranzher, why do you ernichaete, right? Honestly, I can not imagine what you are saying but if someone fails or put you in the mood occurred to bring up such an absurd sense of someone's statements, what's the point, except for blatant provocation?
Base Map - a tool, a good tool, easy. But even the best tool does not hang in the red corner and do not smoke him incense - it kept on hand, that's all. And why the sarcasm about such mundane things?

K-Maler 27.12.2009 23:40

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Сообщение от ranzher (Сообщение 632496)
Until the last breath deceased was sure that the masterpiece has Krasnopevtsev. Let's hope that this can be his descent

I go back to your theme, it is serious. Who's the expert? And what about in cases such as this? Since such works are easily manipulated and very difficult to detect forgery. I bring the situation, because of which back or even find your topic.
Took to confirm the attribution of the artist underground. I turned to some experts, self-association. " Pay dearly. The examination consisted of one sentence "such a picture of (name) is written in the distinctive style and manner ... few more words ... and authorship is confirmed. yet been assigned, that "is of interest to collectors and that the examination was a" visual "(ie just watched). Of the three experts, art history education (recently received), only one, the other economic. No work history was not attached to or installed, even though the story was and the history of shopping too (and accomplished). They do not come into my head that it should be pointed out. But the seals were many. That's the problem. The artist is alive, the work was purchased by him personally was at the shows. None of this is not specified. Second, if evidence based on the similarity of "manners" that all modern "manners" is easily repeatable. But the "implications" (over which you ironiziruete) is unique. And we should then know very well is this artist, as in the case with Krasnopevtsev. Then what price is a licensed examination? And now they call en masse and ....?

observer 28.12.2009 00:12

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 820802)
Then what price is a licensed examination?

None. ...

Тютчев 28.12.2009 19:59

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 820802)
I go back to your theme, it is serious. Who's the expert? And what about in cases such as this? Since such works are easily manipulated and very difficult to detect forgery.

Problems with expertise is lacking. The longer you work, the more one realizes that there is no perfect expert. Therefore I think that the important thing to find first-class dealer! The dealer must understand the intricacies of their profession thoroughly! He must know what an honest judge, and what not! He must know what an expert in any field is strong! He must understand what sells better than any expert! He must take responsibility for the cleanliness of the transaction and guarantee money back if sold falshak! (That's his flaw!) This dealer is always responsible for everything! Find this dealer, no problems! A good dealer - a conductor on the thickets of the market, which is full of surprises and traps! That irreplaceable experience, which the dealer has acquired over decades of practice can not be obtained any other way!

Деко 28.12.2009 23:24

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Сообщение от Amateur (Сообщение 632626)
She remembered thinking of the great photographer Henri Cartier-Bresson (1908 - 2004): "The difference between good and average images - is a matter of a few millimeters, a very small difference. But the important one. I think that between the photographers is not much difference , but very important differences are small. "

Perhaps it applies to all artists.

In other words, said Michelangelo (about the "important small difference"):
"I paid much attention to detail. From the smallest detail consists perfection. A perfect - no small thing."

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Сообщение от Tjutchev (Сообщение 822552)
guarantee money back if sold falshak! (That's his flaw!)

I think this is the most difficult question.

Кирилл Сызранский 28.12.2009 23:33

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Сообщение от Deco (Сообщение 822902)
I think this is the most difficult question.

Why? What this question is complex?

олег назаров 29.12.2009 03:19

Dear administrators! a lot of photos identified falshakov raskidanny on different topics ... it would be nice to collect all messages from a particular photo in one block ....... and does not pollute its discussions to gather there only messages with forgeries of different themes (something like neofitsalnoy basis of forum)

adventuregallery 12.04.2011 13:09

Yuck! Two thumbs down!
 
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Сообщение от ранжер (Сообщение 629416)
Interesting. What? Do not share?

In your opinion there is a subtext?

Yuck! Bad copy. Two thumbs down! Keep practicing. And don't lose your day job! :)

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Сообщение от artmig1978 (Сообщение 628566)
Please show you that you think belongs there, this work really hand Krasnopevtsev.

I like this 'Krasnopevtsev'. Quite strong. Russian art conservators are quite talented. Excellent academic training at the Russian fine art academies. What's the story with that baby blue background though? Also, I don't recall that Dima ever used anal beads in his still lifes although I am no expert. Not sure Liliya would have approved. :)

adventuregallery 12.04.2011 13:20

Real or fake - I love it!
 
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Сообщение от artmig1978 (Сообщение 628566)
Please show us what you think belongs there, this work is really part Krasnopevtsev

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This work is quite convincing.

What's the story with your child that a blue background, though?

Not sure if Lily would have approved.
 
:)

SAH 12.04.2011 21:07

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Сообщение от Tiutchev (Сообщение 822551)
Problems with the expertise now lacking . The longer you work , the more convinced that there is no perfect expert . Therefore I think the main thing to find first-class dealer ! The dealer must understand the intricacies of his profession thoroughly ! He should know what an honest judge , and what not ! He should know what an expert in any field is strong ! He should understand what sells better than any expert ! He should take responsibility for the cleanliness of the transaction and guarantee the return of money if sold falshaka ! ( That's his flaw ! ) This dealer is always responsible for everything ! Will find this a dealer , no problems ! A good dealer - it was covered by thickets of the market , which is full of surprises and traps ! That irreplaceable experience , which the dealer acquired over decades of practice can not be obtained any other way !

Tiutchev, bravo ! Golden words . I would like to mention ( to the thesis ) that the present , a good dealer - really , a good collector , investor . And, accordingly, poor dealer ..... :)

гимназистка 24.04.2011 22:43

Trust but verify - but how?
 
I can not fail to note the contradictions (not to a specific party positions , and in the generalized sense, several dozen messages from various branches ) : then - " find a good dealer and trust him " , that " his head should have and know what to buy , but otherwise will " pay for science . " Certainty and peace of mind when buying art is the arithmetic mean, honestly , does not add .

artcol 24.04.2011 22:56

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Сообщение от schoolgirl (Сообщение 1607741)
I can not fail to note the contradictions (not to a specific party positions , and in the generalized sense, several dozen messages from various branches ) : then - " find a good dealer and trust him " , that " his head should have and know what to buy , otherwise you will " pay for science . " Certainty and peace of mind when buying art is the arithmetic mean, honestly , does not add .

There is an option to buy from the heirs or if the artist during his lifetime.

Тютчев 25.04.2011 00:31

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Сообщение от schoolgirl (Сообщение 1607741)
I can not fail to note the contradictions (not to a specific party positions , and in the generalized sense, several dozen messages from various branches ) : then - " find a good dealer and trust him " , that " his head should have and know what to buy , otherwise you will " pay for science . " Certainty and peace of mind when buying art is the arithmetic mean, honestly , does not add .


There is such a thing as " reputation " . How do you choose a doctor ? Select and dealer .

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But keep in mind, a good dealer, "product" piece.
;)>

гимназистка 26.04.2011 06:14

Piece - that means ten percent or less ...
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