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Кирилл Сызранский 30.07.2009 22:37

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Сообщение от Maroussia (Сообщение 503976)
And you porekommenduyu attentively read the classics, even close and clear you

At a time when destroying harmful insects, sterilizing the males, we must raise the dispute to the abstract heights. Let's talk about the collapse and the rise of Hollywood, without seeing a single film. Let's push the philosophers, not by reading their works. Let's argue about the taste of oysters and coconuts with those who ate them, until they were hoarse, to blows, perceiving the taste of food on the ear, the color of teeth, the smell of the eyes, imagining the film by name, painting by name, country of the Club narrator "severity of opinions on anthologies. (c)
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Maroussia, cпасибо for reminding me, a good quote. In the subject. :)

Черномашенцев Владимир 30.07.2009 22:40

Seers not exist.
 
Marusya:

Unfortunately, history shows that the experts, prophets, soothsayers and other critics of 99%is gravely mistaken. Examples of weight - from the posthumous recognition of the unrecognized during the life of artists, and ending with the simple-commerce:
Was in America such a great and respected businessman, visionary Trump. Even a skyscraper built his name in New York. Where is he now? Bankrupt and the house long remortgaged.
  Typically, the prophets are those who are lucky in the lottery of life. In time put money in a crisis, risked guessed - it all praise. And how many millions did not guess, and broke?
You want me to believe art critics in this spiritual sphere as painting? This is not mathematics, not physics, and even finance.

I have much of an individualist, and therefore focuses on his own opinion and experience. Better watch the original once and make a complete picture of a picture than read a hundred reviews on it, often conflicting. All reviews are written spices with the name and titles. But equally they write only for money. And on my own - often in different ways.

Veronique:

Buscador 30.07.2009 23:18

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Сообщение от Veronic (Сообщение 503946)
Malevich foresaw the turn of mankind, and brilliantly shown this square.

And where it turned (humanity)?
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Сообщение от Veronic (Сообщение 503946)
thoughts always go back to the point, this is the beginning and end. Everything else is just speculation .....

Somehow it all abstrusely and not very clear. The idea, point, start, stop, square, circle ... "Birth - the first step to death ..." Life - a step into Eternity or Nothingness ... It's all philosophy. So you can discuss any subject, in essence, saying nothing ...

SAH 31.07.2009 00:07

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Сообщение от Buscador (Сообщение 504176)
. It's all philosophy.

Here's a painting that's the case, few have meaning, content and philosophy, but not umnogih.

Posav 31.07.2009 00:41

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Сообщение от SergeiSK (Сообщение 501816)
"black square in the white frame - this is not simply a joke, not an easy call, not a casual little epizodik that occurred in the house at the Champ de Mars, and that one of the acts of self-affirmation of the principle which has its name of the abomination of desolation, and which boasts of the fact that it is through pride, through arrogance, a violation of all the love and tender, will lead all to ruin. "
Benois

Fears of what! It is necessary to write a white square on a white background.:)

Черномашенцев Владимир 31.07.2009 01:23

Long, long ago late. White, red, blue, green - to suit all tastes - is painted on the squares in the United States of Commerce.
They are all gray concrete.

Маруся 31.07.2009 01:34

Already it was quite desperate to find this ссылочку in your computer.
But just then: Tatyana Tolstoy, Dunya Smirnova, AD Sarabyanov and, of course, about the black box, too.

A. Sarabyanov - School for Scandal
http://rutube.ru/tracks/1503479.html

таша 31.07.2009 06:17

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This is my "black" squares. Called "flash". Black squares-sgrafito of translucent wax paper. For each picture, light bulbs, which highlights "demonstrated" the image in turn for 2 seconds. In between the flashing "squares" looked like black with unreadable cracelures. The meaning of statements was as follows: The juxtaposition of knowledge from outside, "alien", practical information (texts on the perimeter of the picture) and personal, is possible only as a flash-illumination, but which is true for us personally. Size 60x60 images, names left to right: "To be born", "Love", "Music," "die".

Veronic 31.07.2009 08:12

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Сообщение от Buscador (Сообщение 504176)
And where it turned (humanity)?

Somehow it all abstrusely and not very clear. The idea, point, start, stop, square, circle ... "Birth - the first step to death ..." Life - a step into Eternity or Nothingness ... It's all philosophy. So you can discuss any subject, in fact, without saying anything ...

At the beginning of last century, mankind has turned to where we are with you live.

Your second remark is not clear ..... in general many of the questions that way and discussed.

Buscador 31.07.2009 10:07

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Сообщение от Veronic (Сообщение 504926)
At the beginning of last century, mankind has turned to where we now live with you.

You want to say that all (the country, people ...) turned in one direction. And so we live the same way - in Somalia, the United States, Honduras, Japan, Spain, the former Soviet Union .... At all mankind the same values, outlook on life ...
We are here with a "square" can not understand, and you all of humanity on the road allowed one ...: rolleyes:

Veronic 31.07.2009 10:17

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Сообщение от Buscador (Сообщение 505186)
You want to say that all (the country, people ...) turned in one direction. And so we live the same way - in Somalia, the United States, Honduras, Japan, Spain, the former Soviet Union .... At all mankind the same values, outlook on life ...
We are here with a "square" can not understand, and you all of humanity on the road allowed one ...: rolleyes:

Yes, mankind has gone the way of scientific and technological progress, which has not been more than 3000 two thousand years (of the earlier civilizations speak here will not).
What we have now? ... computers, telephones, cars, airplanes. Almost all items of modern civilization have a square shape or form that nature can not create (as in the nature of all objects have irregular shapes).
For illustrative quote pictures

sss 31.07.2009 18:13

"Black Square" ...

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Сообщение от Buscador (Сообщение 501626)
I do not feel

You're in luck! Many feel nausea and revulsion. ))

Suprematism has completely and rational perception, without fainting.
You can just utilitarian - use the square as a reference point. ))
To all other, it is not only in the context of the time, era, theory, ideology ... but in the context of the works of Malevich, with which you are (judging by the avatar) sweet talk.
So, your desire, certainly surgically separating the ear from a mobile phone, looks strange.

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Сообщение от Buscador (Сообщение 501626)
There is love, beauty, is the Sun, Morning Dawn and Evening Sunset, there are people, there is nature ....
And the squares - for those who can not see the beauty ...

Squares for those who understand that they (the squares) are in the same row with Love, Blood and Carrots ... The beauty, the sun, the morning dawn and the twilight sky, with people, nature .... (a even, in all the above you, there is opposition, like Dusk - Dawn, morning - evening, which you have managed to reward a positive value, because it is - it is beautiful).

In search of sensuality you confuse the concept of "depict" and "display". In the visual arts - this is not the same thing. ))

SAH 31.07.2009 22:46

sss, well said.

Buscador 01.08.2009 10:59

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Сообщение от sss (Сообщение 507146)
So, your desire, certainly surgically separating the ear from a mobile phone, looks strange.

I do something against surgery. (Although if the phone is rooted to the ear, I think there without it (intervention) does not cost!):)
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Сообщение от sss (Сообщение 507146)
In search of sensuality You are confusing the concept of "depict" and "display". In the visual arts - this is not the same thing. ))

This is not the same not only in the visual arts ... and really in search of "sensation" is not confused!

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Сообщение от sss (Сообщение 507146)
Squares for those who understand that they (the squares) are in the same row with Love,

Then maybe you're right (do not judge me). For me - the gap between them ...

gans 21.03.2010 18:50



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