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Why does the buyer need an expert piece of paper ? Because he does not trust the seller.
If, on the one hand, you will be working on a way to inspire and honest seller to the buyer , and the other - to show the insignificance of papers dishonest , irresponsible "experts" , then eventually achieve that buyers will trust the sellers and may appear conscientious experts (unless, of course, be imputed to them the material and criminal responsibility for their signature ) . |
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It's all about the lyrics of "bad " experts , but some of the answers so far no one knows : 1. Was Odessa expertise ? Refer to it in this thread, but it vanished during an attack on a forum. If so, can we see it? 2 . The results of chemical analysis . 3 . Provenance . |
mobydick, I understand that the way you present this fake job?
So I 'll tell you something . This work is a fake , I was featured in Kiev still 5-7 years ago. It was unsigned. and if I remember correctly (do not want to indicate to the person) after a conversation with me was made by chemical analysis of the paint layer to the work. And he revealed that the work was written 3-5 years ago. This is a brand I know for sure . And if the person who showed it to me will not mind if I call the person's name . Addition, I've seen this work. |
uriart, Thank you very much for this post in this thread.
Today counterfeiting is no longer on the territory of Ukraine, and now the only Russian specialists to understand how is it possible that an employee could NINE March 4, 2011 to give an expert opinion on the job. |
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uriart, obizhaytes.Ya not mean all of this never-ending story about the stupid desire to cash in on the wheeler-dealer making falshakov . Infinite , because there were before " Nilus ." They sold them successfully on the Ukrainian auctions and will sell more . Yes, with regard to the examination, then how Vakulenko told her in Ukraine. No. her in Russia . And there is the desire of individuals with the seals in their pockets to get their share of the pie . Even if these pies with potato peelings . |
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Any long-term provenance outweigh the opinion of many experts put together. Vivienne ! Since you wrote about this job a long time ago - you and cards in your hand . Collect all the data on the original in the form of documents or confirmed data ( when created , who sold on what the exhibition for who owns today) + get confirmation that Nilus did not repeat ( as I understand it , you have access to the archives of the artist ) . Internet forums - it certainly is power, but the legal issues are best addressed with documents in rrukah . More and reparation will be able to ... and in Russia too. |
tandem, "" Yes, with regard to the examination, how rightly said Vakulenko, Ukraine does not have it ""
Well, if Vakulenko, so to speak, was referring to himself in the first place, he is absolutely right! Although he claims to be an expert for almost all sections of painting, etc. |
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The damage inflicted is not just me, but the reputation of experts that issued the report. |
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I was more worried about that , " the artistic heritage of the artist" and least of all about the reputation of the experts ( I have at this point there own opinion ) If all the protests will remain at this forum - then so be it Who is against ? |
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Errors in varying degrees, allow all professionals to avoid the mistakes of the past , we must at least know them .... We must not forget that we are talking about the expert who makes an examination on the first row of the names of artists |
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I wanted to test myself . Or only I see in these works , then that other members can not pay attention or I dreamed it all .
I tried to see the "work from the auction " live, but I did not succeed , since at the request of the representatives of the auction at the time she was on the examination and I will have to base their arguments solely on the photo on the screen. I am a little familiar with the work of P. Nilus (we are talking about the " nasmotrennosti " genuine creativity in the museum 's collections , excluding sufficiently careful inspection of the exhibition of the artist in TG) and do not have historical data about the work and life of the Association of South Russian artists. I would also like to note that with the a deep respect for Vivian as a researcher and promoter of creativity TYURH . Ever wanted to clarify the terminology for your post : image of the picture provided by Vivien , I will call the "Work Vivian " or " PB ". image of the painting from the auction catalog - "Working with the auction " or " RA" . We consider and compare the picture from left to right , top to bottom . 1. On the " Work Vivian " in the upper left corner of the painting depicts three small format with a not very correct geometric orientation with respect to the wall. On the " Work with the auction " of the picture posted is also not very true and partly changed the plot .
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U_Z, do not say "Thank you", I just want to express my respect for the search for truth.
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And the person doing the painting , it is the hope for further sale, adding or changing items and plot. Since writing a big chair in the foreground and thereby diverting the viewer's attention from the main characters wanted to rename the product of nothing less than the "Ballad of a chair and a large table ." Forgery (RA) carefully spelled out , but with the big prof.oshibkami . For example, center of interest at work Vivien clearly appears lighter rhythm, all other details are subject to the center and closer in tone - is the ABC (in the photo I showed in red pencil ) ! At work, fake all by itself - bright picture on the wall , a bright vase, light shirt heroine faces of friends , etc. - Is not subject to compositional rhythm , I would even say that he did ( RA ) is a student of the Odessa College , he has yet to come ))) . But the work of Vivienne - a professional job , and just across the canvas shows the influence of time. |
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