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Seriy 19.12.2011 19:13

Cyril Syzran, it turns out somewhere in the 10-20 year work?
by today's standards is nothing ...
Agree that the requirements for performance artists for 150 years have changed.

NATA NOVA 19.12.2011 19:23

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agree that the performance requirements of the artist over 150 years have changed.
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Seriy, then a Low- Art was not born .. and all these modern estimations largely to him , and then apply ..
And in a completely different mentality Canaletto was, and the " artist " was carrying the other , and the very concept has undergone a change ( a whopping ).....

Кирилл Сызранский 19.12.2011 19:24

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 1895101)
it turns out somewhere in the 10-20 year work?

Did not count.


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modern concepts on nothing ...

You know better, I'm not a painter.

Fed 19.12.2011 19:31

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requirements for performance artists for 150 years have changed.

Actually, it turns out , he produced a work in a month ( not counting the lost and not counted .) If their quality is likely to sell now just for $ 600, I think, for a young man just start out in any economic sector is a normal salary .

In such works very quickly I would go up , as opposed to those who " are written so that the work of a quality that is more or less corresponds to the actual sale price ." Would these virtual artists - have written a better - and so prices are not low relative to wages. In Ukraine, for $ 600 should be 170 hours of work out , and wages are - oh, how to search , and even more so in 22 years.

Seriy 19.12.2011 19:31

Cyril Syzran, this requirement is not an artist, gallery owners and the requirements of this art market , contemporary artist should produce between 50 and more finished gallery quality work per year , billed once at 9 months , otherwise it uncompetitive market . It's just a mass production .

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Fed, and that was actually Vasilyev ? All told , excellent work! and did not buy ... and money to bail the paintings are not allowed . And now it would be exactly the same.
 Vasilyev, as I understand it , lived through benefactors and prizes, and not through market sales.
I've been walking on the picture , look at how other artists draw , professionals with excellent education and experience in life. One , I think , draws the best. He does not even have a site. He does absolutely unknown. T e quality of his work does not help him .

Yury Ryabchenyuk 19.12.2011 19:43

How much is the artist ...
 
So much - how much for a buyer willing to pay ..

Кирилл Сызранский 19.12.2011 19:45

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 1895171)
modern artist has to produce 50 or more ready-made gallery quality work per year, billed once at 9 months, otherwise it uncompetitive market.

Why, when talking about contemporary artists, you are in the Sue remembers genius of Fyodor Vasilyev and Van Gogh?

Seriy 19.12.2011 19:50

Cyril Syzran, because the arguments are such and such work well done will certainly buy from increasing the price at any time. An example of these artists, and Vasiliev in particular because it does not subvert , like Van Gogh, and was understood , it is very revealing. Everyone likes and do not buy.

Кирилл Сызранский 19.12.2011 19:52

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 1895171)
and did not buy ...
and money to bail paintings were not given.

Tretyakov bought something.


You, Seriy, falsely (and perhaps intentionally or) projecting the complicated cash nexus of the then artists on the current situation.

NATA NOVA 19.12.2011 19:53

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Actually, it turns out, he produced a work in a month (not counting the lost and not counted.)
If their quality is likely to sell now just 600 $,

Let me clarify: This is a (brilliant, IMHO) Vasilyev??

Кирилл Сызранский 19.12.2011 19:55

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 1895231)
Everyone likes rather than buy.

He was a young novice artist, just beginning to live, I have the IAH studies, there has been enlisted in the 71st year as a student volnoslushayuschego, but because of illness, and did not attend classes.

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Let me clarify: This is a (brilliant, IMHO) Vasilyev??

Yes, the FA Vasiliev (1850-1873).

NATA NOVA 19.12.2011 19:57

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work very well made ​​sure to buy the ascending price at any time . An example of these artists, and Vasiliev in particular because it does not subvert , like Van Gogh, and was understood , it is very revealing. Everyone likes and do not buy.
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K-Maler 19.12.2011 23:30

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Tretyakov bought something .

You , Seriy, falsely (and perhaps intentionally or ) projecting the complicated cash nexus of the then current situation for artists .

Then, all the same , based on determining the value of the "basket" of life that the artist could observe needful way of life , not needy . In order to have enough for an apartment, etc. Studies are always worth little compared with what then was understood as a pattern , ie, product with significant meaning for the society .
And now more understanding of the issue : They say so much " canvas " in a month ... There is a view that they are " identical ", " your way " ... and so on, yet Grabar wrote, as it began in Paris ...

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Kirill Syzran , it turns out somewhere in the 10-20 year work ? by today's standards is nothing ... Agree that the requirements for performance artists for 150 years have changed.
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First, two good , very successful work in a month is not too small.
Second ... Then I heard about one artist who paints pictures , she says , "to order, and for the interior ." In a single day . When asked about the topics was the answer , "some ladies in hats " ... Well, if she writes them as Hogarth's " Shopgirl shrimp ," she may be invited to ...

NATA NOVA 19.12.2011 23:54

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Then I heard about one artist who paints pictures , she says , "to order, and for the interior ." In a single day . When asked about the topics was the answer , "some ladies in hats " ... Well, if she writes them as Hogarth's " Shopgirl shrimp ," she may be invited to ...

  Artist , " the studio "! (Interest parses ...)

sur 20.12.2011 00:21

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There is a view that they are " identical ", " your way " ... and so ,

That's what I am saying that there is nothing the same . No two paintings, as no two people are alike. :)> Accordingly, they should all be in different ways.
 Here, for example , we have a picture of its author and repeat. Re artist painted the same picture is clearly better and made it a little more size. What picture will be more expensive ? Or will they cost the same ?
I know that I now answer any normal person :
- You should see the THING.
 Or, for example . Objective: To hang on the wall five equal-sized canvases to one author, 4 and 3 and one for 5. Purchaser, as seller, for some reason, is clearly more like the thing for 5. Money the customer has and the number of his growing proportionally to the increase in world oil prices . :)>

 Q: 1.How thing a buyer will buy .
             2.How methodology it will use when choosing a painting? :)>


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