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Glasha 05.07.2009 16:22

Of course, it would be interesting to see specifically, but
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Сообщение от LCR (Сообщение 457466)
Now they are all authenticated as original by the Italian artist

Marture if and jabbed his finger "in any work, is unlikely to publicly designate.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 458436)
It should be at least slightly Modi, but whether they Soutine?

If the work of imitators, so Soutine has become a time Modigliani:
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Сообщение от LCR (Сообщение 457466)
put themselves in the place of the artist, to feel their feelings, to pass his way and to work instinctively, not thinking, "disconnect reason" not to lose the spontaneity and automaticity hands


Кирилл Сызранский 05.07.2009 16:37

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Сообщение от Glasha (Сообщение 458476)
If the work of imitators, so Soutine has become a time Modigliani

I am in this version, Sutin wrote "Modelyani" - do not really believe, to be honest.

Glasha 05.07.2009 16:51

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 458516)
I'm in this version, Sutin wrote "Modelyani" - not really believe, to be honest.

I just can not imagine this ...

Jasmin 07.07.2009 10:36

The website http://pintura.aut.org/, where I often now I go, drew attention to a single peculiarity. There are many anonymous authors of the 15-18 centuries. And the impression that all the paintings - all of the Infanta, gentlemen, dwarfs and so on .- hand of one artist, and the modern.

Allena 07.07.2009 15:23

And I think that must feel the forger. If a very talented person successfully adopts the manner of another, and somewhere even become them, what is inside him while going on? The result is not an artist, a brilliant imitator. By the way, is why, in my opinion, Soutine and Kisling on to forge Modigliani, too much in them was a proper beginning, that they were able to overcome his forgery.

Sandro 07.07.2009 17:26

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 457906)
And not too many publications about fakes? And not too into them (in these publications), some of these fakes? And the "authors"-what? A museum?
Once this is suspicious ...
No?

I agree with Kirill, I think this writings Morture - bullshit! It seems that "recent" (with debunking fakes Van Gogh, Vermeer, Yavlensky) became fashionable to be Poddelschikom, rasskryvat myself laughing oprofanennymi art critics. And much of the 18 forgeries in the Pushkin and the Hermitage - is simply ridiculous!, Where he was when the Shchukin and Morozov bought paintings by the artists themselves or their friends?

eva777 08.07.2009 11:29

Here - here! I agree with Kirill and Sandro. I also had the feeling a certain bravado Marture. And where flaunt, there is usually a lot of questions arise! When poddelschiki made a kind of advertising??
I especially liked about his secret: "The secret Marture was simple: he tried to put ourselves in the place of the artist, to capture his feelings and blah blah blah :)))"
That's how many artists, nebeztalannyh could this secret to create masterpieces! :))

Allena 08.07.2009 13:45

Yeah, exactly! And in general, counterfeiting - the theme demanded. Well do not laugh at snobby art critics, who so blunder? It's funny that ignorant people do not feed bread - let only rejoice when suddenly a professional (a person who had studied and studied and studied, when the ignorant beer drinking and watching television lying) was wrong (and maybe not wrong - in short, whether He stole the coat, whether he had stolen ...).
Oh, I hate fighting ignorance!

Кирилл Сызранский 04.09.2009 18:27

Michael Tubli "Elvira Yeropkina: Porcelain, Ceramics.
 
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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 586236)
But in the book itself is a very exciting detective application, dedicated to the history of fake sculptures. E. Eropkin.
By the way, if forumcanam interesting, this application with photos of fake stamps can lay out in the relevant subject.

  Here and spread.
The history of a forgery in e-mail-letters.
(in sokrashenii)

Tana 04.09.2009 18:43

Cyril Syzransky, but somehow can not enlarge, please:) text is very small, can not read: shy:

Кирилл Сызранский 04.09.2009 18:44

Tana, I'm not the most skilled user.
Can anyone help?

Tana 04.09.2009 18:48

Cyril Syzransky got!!
  summoned the right mouse button and opened in a new window, then increased and now read, thanks!
very interesting story!

dedulya37 05.09.2009 07:05

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Сообщение от Tana (Сообщение 587096)
then increased and now read,

Not everyone is good eyesight. Read really interesting.
I ask the author (s) if possible to make the text bigger. How to do this is shown here:

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...p;postcount=21

05.09.2009 12:20

"Punctured" Catherine, removing a potential buyer for M.Tubli.Zachem it had to be done, if it was aware of the conflict between husband the sculptor with the manufacturer and the Hermitage.
The material is well illustrated by the incompetence of management department of a major museum. Including its leader - a former teacher of Marxism - Leninism in party schools Sanya, the capital of Yemen, and now a doctor and an academician.

Кирилл Сызранский 05.09.2009 15:50

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Сообщение от VYACHESLAV (Сообщение 588026)
former teacher of Marxism - Leninism in party schools Sanya, the capital of Yemen

I only know that Mikhail Borisovich 1973-1976 he worked translator and teacher Yemeni stories in the Higher School of Social Sciences in the People's Democratic Republic of Yemen. About Marxism-Leninism, I do not know.


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