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Fed 26.10.2010 19:29

"Caution: Russian Museum!

Constantine Azadovsky: a ban on the museum expertise, Rosokhrankultura replaced it with private experts who have a state license As a museum, then their opinion, they can invest only in the form of "advisory opinion".
The complex of studies of both one of my works, the experts of the Russian Museum found that the authorship of any one of them is not confirmed. Motivation:
   - Signature Benoit and Sudeikina are fake;
   - A watercolor attributed to Alexander Benois, visible in the infrared image with graphite, which excludes the hand of the artist;
   - Drawing, attributed Sudeikina, made helpless and awkward; pigments, watercolors and paper can be dated no earlier than the second third of the twentieth century.
   Both conclusions signed by a senior fellow of the Russian Museum, IB Verkhovsky, N. Solomatina, MV Cherkasova, and certified by the Deputy Director for Research EN Petrova. Next begins a detective.
   After reading the "advisory opinion", I as a historian, a graduate art history department at Leningrad State University, could not help but wonder.
   Firstly, to establish authenticity of a signature can only handwriting examination. Critics from the Russian Museum are not eligible to make such findings (in doubtful cases they should refer to specialists).
   Secondly, the finding for Benoit (figure that excludes hand ...») could be made only when comparisons of the things presented at the examination, the so-called reference database. And although the mention of the etalons present in official custody, but that's what made me suspicious. It is known that other drawings Benoit, executed them in 1921 for the play "Doctor willy-nilly," now is not stored in the Russian Museum and State Museum of Theatre and Music.
   Thirdly, watercolor by Alexander Benois, who had allegedly been investigated "in the infrared and ultraviolet spectral regions, was subjected to XRF analysis, etc., come back to me" intact ", ie zakonvertovannoy (under glass and in box).
   Fourthly, it was unclear how the experts have determined the age of the paper (it comes sudeykinskoy gouaches). Such studies are extremely complex and require special skills.
Department of handwriting analysis Expert Forensic Center of Internal Affairs in St. Petersburg and Leningrad region - and I asked for the examination. Carefully researched watercolor, head of LA Sysoev, concluded: all the written texts (including signature) on the submitted figure will be owned by Benoit.
Based on the fact that the basic "reference designs" for the job Benoit in 1921 kept in the Museum of Theatre and Music in St. Petersburg, I requested an examination in this institution. And what happened? Leading researcher of the museum expert on cultural values of EI Grushvitskaya, studied by me watercolor Benoit came to this conclusion: the script.
  And another question: what exactly is behind the games, museum professionals? Ignorance? Carelessness? Or something worse? "
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Dmitry73 26.10.2010 19:42

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 1346221)
Konstantin Azadovsky: a ban on the museum expertise, Rosokhrankultura replaced it with private experts who have a state license As for the museum staff, then their opinion, they can invest only in the form of" advisory opinion ».

As far as I know the Russian Museum returned the right to conduct official examinations.

Кирилл Сызранский 26.10.2010 20:04

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Сообщение от Dmitry73 (Сообщение 1346201)
But about this auction did not hear anything? [URL="http://auction-ruseasons.ru/index.php"]http://auction-ruseasons.ru/index.php[/
URL]


This new project, I understand.

Romario 26.10.2010 21:49

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Сообщение от Dmitry73 (Сообщение 1345911)
wore a job in the Russian Museum and one of the antique magazinov.Posle initial examination of questions about the authenticity of the work is not vozniklo.V soon going to give work to the examination in the Russian Museum.
Tell me, please, an indicative cost of the picture (if a positive examination).

No normal dealer or museum worker after the initial inspection is nothing else but to advise the expertise, can not, if he is no expert on this artist. So, to sell the painting for 5-10 thousand dollars (I think) you'll have to necessarily do, but it will be your expenses. It's a risk. I have all the same I would advise even before the examination to show her a pair of top three influential people to say so to achieve a certain representativeness. And then solve exactly with expertise. It's not like rush.

Sales would advise to contact the auction house, Leonid Shishkin, or Cabinet. Eg.

fabosch 26.10.2010 22:08

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Сообщение от Dmitry73 (Сообщение 1346011)
Can you please tell how to sell the painting (an auction, antique store or the like). The work is in St. Petersburg.

I think that if you sell through an auction - will be uniquely through Moscow. All attempts to organize in Peter normal, regularly acting auction before failing. May not be an exception and you specified project. There is also Sberbank something is up, while with sovremnymi artists - but too little hard to believe.
If you make the examination, so do not be lazy, learn a little about the market - look on the internet Moscow galleries all have emails - write, talk, and there should already to some first decision will come. In any case, most likely, will have to act through a commission - you yourself can hardly find the end customer

Игорь Гурьев 27.10.2010 02:15

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 1346221)
And another question: what exactly is behind the games, museum professionals?
Ignorance?

Well.



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Fed 27.10.2010 08:58

If you give trading advice, in light of the above comments, the easiest and most economical way is to connect with Gelos. See the picture, agree on a price, as I understand it start around 9000 at the hands (or listen to their adjustment, but in the direction of decreasing the minimum). They have their own experts, who themselves without the bother of your expenses and beganiny. Your goal is not academic delights, and the simplest way to sell.
  In the near future they will start all sorts of Christmas and seasonal auctions. This name clearly fit under them (and someone will need a gift). Do not pull that for them to have time to go.

Кирилл Сызранский 27.10.2010 09:08

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Сообщение от Fed; 1346921"
They have their own experts, who themselves without the bother of your expenses and beganiny.

That is the same as well. No need to spend money on experts to run ...
Given by Gelos, they "bother" is attributed, the thing does not even sell, and already have atributsyya. Song! :D
Where are you, Fed, of such free services gelosovskih heard, eh? :)

Fed 27.10.2010 09:18

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 1346931)
thing does not even sell, and already have attribution. Song!

And what-not. We're on the money man, ask for help pechemsya, not buyers, they are nothing we have not asked for.
A service is not free (we do them not be ordered separately), and included in the procedure on sale of antiques.

Кирилл Сызранский 27.10.2010 09:34

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 1346951)
A service is not free (we do them not be ordered separately), and included in the procedure on sale of antiques.

Yes? Are you sure?
I mean Lagorio buy at Gelos, and there are already "sitting" cost attribution? :D
Gelos he did everything, took the thing deliverers in Grabar, for example, has received a letter, put the lot up for sale. :D "So?"

Well you start the day of the forum. With jokes from the humor! Thank you. :p


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