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Eriksson 18.11.2008 14:03

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 110376)
The hypothesis is really interesting!
And like any hypothesis is the place to be!
In my opinion is represented not by a Russian woman. It is quite a Swede or other inozemka. But Russian, I in it I find nothing.


Here too, I do not like an amateur, and quite competent to declare that hair and dark eyes Swedes, koi now found, are descendants of French Walloons, appeared in Sweden in the 18 century. Walloon engaged exclusively in blacksmithing, and could not even be courtiers. The Swedes, no matter how banal, in the vast majority eyed and blond. Do not forget that they have for centuries been almost the islanders, and the people here was almost 99%mono-flesh to the postwar period.

uriart 18.11.2008 14:16

I do not know how the changes occurred ethnic Swedes. No argument there.
Rather, I will say about the hand in the portrait of Sweden and the hand in the portrait of Nikitin. As they say in Odessa "These are two very different things!"

Eriksson 18.11.2008 14:22

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 110426)
I do not know how the changes occurred ethnic Swedes. No argument there.
Rather, I will say about the hand in the portrait of Sweden and the hand in the portrait of Nikitin. As they say in Odessa "These are two very different things!"

Do not take offense, just wondering - and you are a collector or art?

Allena 18.11.2008 14:23

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Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 110336)
the idea for which I will probably need to pay membership on the forum ...

That is really crazy idea!: P: p: p

I quite agree with George about foreigners. But you, Ericsson, boy, and frankly, I'm not surprised, but delighted, if you really find something is going on here, and proudly will submit a skeptical society (to which the pronoun, and considered himself a member).

Is the crazy idea to be true? - Interested in someone of great physicists (whether Rutherford, whether Landau, do not remember). So historically, from this point of view, your idea may well be true, but ... You baziruetes too shaky platform hints (because of the suspicion of AI you informed in a private letter), the auction house. There are no facts, which could catch on. Nothing. And it may well be a portrait of some second cousins praprababki present owner, who (portrait) was discovered in the attic. And really the mysterious Russian princess world have always been concerned ... That's stretching the thread from the attic to Russian trading.

Eriksson 18.11.2008 14:35

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 110446)
You baziruetes too shaky platform hints (because of the suspicion of AI you informed in a private letter), the auction house. .

Thank you for your kind words, Allena! Sure, you're right - this is my "conspiracy theories" based only on the external similarity and a number of matches, no facts in it. As for the response to the auction, you can assume that they are all so responsible, in the sense that all who inquired. At the auction as there are no facts, they are in, and honestly. The Swedes, we must give them their due - terrible reinsurers. Perhaps it's good.

Allena 18.11.2008 14:40

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Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 110456)
At the auction as there are no facts, they are in, and honestly.

And it is well recognized that, so honest.

A Russian eating bacon ... in the sense that the work of a Russian bid to put: p

Кирилл Сызранский 18.11.2008 15:01

Eriksson, I too nice your inquiry. Sam love piling up (in a good way) garden and to put a shadow on the fence.
Iconography-absorbing occupation.
Only here Ivan Nikitich you here for nothing, they would not "smell", I am so seen.
See catalog Russian. There, in contrast to the State Tretyakov Gallery, his more-7 and another portrait of Peter the 1 st question.

SAH 18.11.2008 15:04

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 110466)
A fat Russian eat ... in the sense that the work of a Russian bid to put

   exhibited in the hope to earn a black caviar, work on the price of bacon, maybe Russian peck

Allena 18.11.2008 16:47

Eriksson, try to look on the Internet book I. Nemilovoy "Mysteries of old pictures. Author - amazing woman. She survived the blockade, had worked many years at the Hermitage curator of French painting of the 18 century, died 30 years ago. In the book it is quite a popular form says "kitchen science" of his work on the attribution of their ideas about how she came to some conclusions. And a lot - about the iconography. Lesson of the better than any detective, very exciting. If you find one - I wish you an enjoyable read, the book is worth it.

uriart 18.11.2008 18:28

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Dear Erikson!
I am not an art critic, but as for the collector, a moot point.
Do not allow conscience to belong to onym. I can not walk in a torn coat and buy the paintings as did the true collectors in the USSR.
I also Soviet! Former Soviet, and thank God that the former!
I love art!
I see and understand (think so!). In any case, it is my (art) does not leave indifferent. I can not pass by the beautiful! Touches the soul!
  Without a serious business, anyway, and buy paintings and crafts.
As necessary.
So that's my opinion, this opinion is layman, but not blind, and blind!
Constantly learning and to strangers and from their mistakes.
So, forehead break to pieces, and go forward!
When this forum will be heading for their meetings, I'll show you and your belongings. Got something to show. I think many with me will be glad.
As for auction houses, so it's just commerce. They see that there is interest in this topic and podkidyvayut intrigue. That's all music. And you should not condemn them.
Let everyone will figure out what he is capable. Able to understand and separate the wheat from the chaff, get a prize!
And no, went into minus!
Here's to copy the work of three Ivan Nikitin.
See for yourself and you will see the difference in the manner of Nikitinskii portraits with a portrait of the auction.


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