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Тютчев 18.05.2010 02:04

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 1106972)
paint lies not so, as the dry

That is, just, and difficult to discern at this resolution.

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 1106972)
To some (tiny) error in the proportions seen

What specifically do you mean? Give examples.

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 1106972)
And besides, do not forget that in the era of Hals, Vermeer human eye was not at all familiar with the film-photo optics (except that the camera obscura, by the way, I recommend to try)
The eye is familiar with the film-photo, even the track feels different ... (Also the permission to do so does not need anymore to observe that what is "not so)

NATA NOVA, with examples, please.

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 1106922)
That group nevermeerovskaya. a hand (in drinking women) nehalsovskaya. That smear is not the same "

In what sense? Explain, please.

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 1106922)
That smear is not the same "

And yet, difficult to discern smear on such photographs. Smear here can not be seen.

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 1107002)
I Vermeer is more refined ...

K-Maler, in what sense?

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 1106972)
I understand. Seagull had in mind a different motivation. This, too, because you can feel ..

I think that you can ... But in the same way, we can just convince yourself that you feel something (ie, deceive). Likewise, you can believe in "the other side" (so to speak). That is, in fact, that the real thing.

«The devil is in the Details»

NATA NOVA, I am fully assuming that you all can see it. But I would like more details on each issue. (At least, for an interesting conversation)

NATA NOVA 18.05.2010 11:30

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Сообщение от Tjutchev (Сообщение 1107022)
But I would like more details on each of the issues. (At least, for an interesting conversation)

Tjutchev, mozht on Skype?
(It's like this .. to those who have a course of academic drawing and painting took place, the eye just a different ..
I simply fake Vermeer (or Hals) try to portray than "fingers", for example, explains why the constitutional type "drinking women" wrist "to ask" some other type .. And what a handle is not "...( this is all purely subjectively, of course, but I would have written differently)
And would not hand cut format.
Look at the hand .. It was not her arm because ..

When pereresuesh hundreds of different sitters (schits) is itself felt ...

eva777 18.05.2010 11:38

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Сообщение от tchaika (Сообщение 1106912)
A fake bad - authenticity is not felt. This artist, in my view, is itself weak. It is strange that this is you are interested. See more of this zhivopici - then the eyes "perfected", and you start to see the false smears, as in the music you hear false notes. The art lies the divine mystery. Even the author himself can not exactly repeat his work.

MDA ... Meegeren is considered one of the best poddelschikov in the history of fakes! Are you so adamantly)) he spent on manufacturing counterfeit same time, many artists have spent on the painting, then under which he drove his "masterpiece", ie at least a year or two ... and used the authentic materials for izgotvleniev "masterpiece." And it could radzoblachit only after his confession! In a medium poddelschikov no fools and never did.
And you do not feel the picture))) is particularly struck by your advice!

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 1107632)
(Here this thing .. those who have been the course of academic drawing and painting took place, the eyes just a different ..
I simply fake Vermeer (or Hals) try to portray than "fingers", for example, explains why the constitutional type "drinking women" wrist "to ask" some other type .. And what a handle is not "...( this is all purely subjectively, of course, but I would have written differently)
And would not hand cut format.
Look at the hand .. It was not her arm because ..
When pereresuesh hundreds of different sitters (schits) is itself felt ...

Meegeren was a professional artist, for a minute .. Are you talking about?
and how to "handle" izobrazit he knew better than yours.

NATA NOVA 18.05.2010 11:47

What? Let's competition for the best Vermeerovskogo falshaka organize?
The prize fund (serious tysch 50 $). Evaluated only artist. dignity.
Who will sponsor?
Case vspomnilya .. At the competition parodist Charlie Chaplin, Charlie Chaplin, also participated in it himself took 9 place!

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Meegeren was a professional artist, for a minute .. Are you talking about?
and how to "handle" izobrazit he knew better than yours.

So what's the problem? Why is not portrayed as it should? All the energy in the "chemistry" gone?

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eva777, dear, you advice from Igor Gurva:

"I do not believe any examinations, I have my own head there".

eva777 18.05.2010 12:14

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 1107632)
why the constitutional type "drinking women" wrist "to ask" some other type .. And what a handle is "not so "...

You like it on the handle of a picture made out? I envy your eyes!
Thanks for the advice !))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

NATA NOVA 18.05.2010 12:54

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Сообщение от eva777 (Сообщение 1107882)
you like there to handle the photo is made out? I envy your eyes!!

eva777, is not the eye, the brain .. Contact this: eye-hand-drill, eye-hand-drill ... eye ... etc. and so on.
"Make time with a hundred, that would just ... (Pavel Chistyakov)
No wonder ..
Proportions are Iv-Africa PROPORTIONS ...

eva777 18.05.2010 13:39

NATA NOVA, Meegerenu lucky that you did not live ... but then could not take anything from him)))

Veronic 18.05.2010 18:00

In general, live should look. In the photo is difficult to judge, but those photos that show up as something slightly similar to Vermeer.

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 1107752)
What? Let's competition for the best Vermeerovskogo falshaka organize?
The prize fund (serious tysch 50 $). Evaluated only artist. dignity.
Who will sponsor?

great idea !!!!!!!

K-Maler 18.05.2010 23:14

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Сообщение от Tjutchev (Сообщение 1107022)
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I was Vermeer is more refined ...

K-Maler, in what sense?

For example, "Girl Reading a Letter" and a similar plot Meegrena with music.
 In the original "works" everything: the environment, all objects are equivalent with this girl and her beauty, and immersion in this letter, and at the same time, some poignant, cleanliness of all ... sort of gentleness environment. Show: aspect ratio - a figure of Vermeer is not so close to the viewer, they are more in the interior ... From this elegant all my fakes immediately struck by this difference. The lady with the music just keeps notes, it is unable to submergence in some sort of experience, which is even a "thrush" Vermeer. When I heard about these fakes, I thought that's about it - "do you think he is able to convey a particular state of the characters Vermeer ...".

Тютчев 19.05.2010 04:02

Han van Meegeren Antonius
 
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"Women read music" (Vermeer)

Compilation of several paintings by Vermeer, the most obvious: Woman in Blue Reading a Letter (Rijksmuseum, Amsterdam) and writing a letter (The National Gallery of Art, Washington DC)
Found during the search and never for sale was not present.


1. Woman Reading Music 57 x 48 cm, oil on canvas, painted around 1935-36
2, 3, 4, 5. The works Vermeer from where it was compiled.


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