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NATA NOVA 08-05-2010 19:02

Tana, and why the "kindergarten"?
And when mention, if not today?
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Originally Posted by Tana (Post 1083272)

Tiutchev what do you recalculate again? (Last paragraph), then count the number of Jews killed (I think most of all in comparison with Russian, Ukrainian, and so the people and not only on the territory of the USSR), let's finish this kindergarten?

And the Jews remember me, (and how?)

Тютчев 08-05-2010 19:51

Victory Day!
 
Come on, huge country,
Get up to mortal combat
From the dark fascist force
From cursed!

Chorus:

Let noble fury
Boil like a wave!
The national war,
Holy War.

As two different poles,
In all hostile to us.
For the light and the world we are fighting,
They - for the kingdom of darkness.

Chorus.

Roll Back stranglers
All the fiery ideas
Rapists, robbers;
Tormentors people!

Chorus.

Not dare black wings
Fly over the homeland,
Fields prostornye
Do not dare to trample the enemy!

Chorus.

Rotten brow
Will drive a bullet in the forehead,
Let us make a
Knock together a strong coffin!

Chorus.

Come ache with all the strength,
all my heart and soul
For our dear land,
To our great Union!

Chorus.

Gets huge country,
Rises in mortal combat,
From the dark fascist force
From cursed.

Chorus.



Пар-И 08-05-2010 19:52

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Happy Victory Day! May 9, 1941-1945, May 9, 1945

Тютчев 08-05-2010 21:04

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Originally Posted by Tana (Post 1083272)
Tjutchev Well, you again recalculates? (In the last paragraph), then count the number of Jews killed (I think most of all in comparison with Russian, Ukrainian, and so the population and not only on the territory of the USSR), let's finish this kindergarten?



Tana, you want to know why I counted? Yes, because I think I have not gone on vacation to a resort, and died in World War II his fellow citizens! For each number - a human life, which was interrupted only because senile bastards suddenly imagines himself a nation gentlemen! For each number - the pain and suffering, unfulfilled hopes, nedolyubivshie heart, unborn children! I think then, that every scum who only meaneth to stick their noses into my country, I knew that everyone will consider that is not forgotten either one fatality in this holy war!
 
Both my grandfathers went through the war. One of them, incidentally, a Jew. But I never heard him even hint at what the Jews suffered in the war more than people of other nationalities. I'm sure he even did not occur to such an offensive to his comrades thought! Why devote Jews, Georgians, Russian, Armenian or any other nation? Death is not chosen on a national basis! From the hands of the Nazis killed all!
 
The life of any human value in itself, regardless of whether the representative of a nation it is. Otherwise it is paradoxical thing. By counting the number of deaths only one nation at the hands of the Nazis, we are creating the basis for a new nationalism. We kill one animal in order to bring up a new one! " If you are a man of sense, you can check yourself, to qualify the statement that the Jews killed more than representatives of other nations. You can say anything you want! But the facts - stubborn! Murder will out!

Speculations on the number of dead Jews have no relation to the memory of those dead people! I would even say that it is - blasphemy against them! Here intertwined huge amount of interest - from private, selfish, to the geopolitical. Failure to understand this is the "kindergarten"!

Posav 08-05-2010 21:11

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With the holiday, Victory Day!

Кирилл Сызранский 08-05-2010 21:15

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Originally Posted by Tjutchev (Post 1083472)
all considered that do not forgotten either one fatality in this holy war!

More than 60 years on the battlefields are hundreds of thousands of dead and unburied soldiers WPRA.
Remember them?
But do not be buried until now.

Тютчев 08-05-2010 21:22

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Originally Posted by Cyril Syzranskiy (Post 1083522)
More than 60 years on the battlefields are hundreds of thousands of dead and unburied soldiers WPRA.
Remember them?
But do not be buried until now.


I do not understand what you're getting? What does "unburied"? What your question? Put it more clearly.

Кирилл Сызранский 08-05-2010 21:27

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Originally Posted by Tjutchev (Post 1083532)
I do not understand what you're getting? What does "unburied"? What your question? Put it more clearly.

I do not "clone", and say plainly and clearly: hundreds of dead Soviet soldiers lie unburied in the fields until now. Bones and skulls outside, next to a rifle, helmet ...
What do you not understand?

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You write:
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Originally Posted by Tjutchev (Post 1083472)
do not forget no one died in this holy war!

Perhaps that is not forgotten. But pohoronnenyh and hundreds of thousands of 200 km from Moscow, for example, Vyazma.
My mother's brother lying there, my uncle ...

Pecheneg 08-05-2010 23:46

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Originally Posted by Cyril Syzranskiy (Post 1083552)
Perhaps that is not forgotten

Everything is possible ... only marked as "Missing." Until now, finding unmarked graves.

He opened to us triumphant May
All hearts for love untold.
But that has died down May Day,
Victory Day has come a long-awaited.
We celebrate the winners.
Prev thinning gray column
Parted, donate flowers
On the heroes look up admiringly.
"Congratulations! - Shouted to them. - Hurray!
However, elderly people are silent.
They do not need a great fame,
And our heartfelt "thank you"

Tana 08-05-2010 23:56

Tjutchev, well, not while I wrote this:
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Originally Posted by Tjutchev (Post 1083212)
The loss of the population (blockade of Leningrad)
During the Battle of Leningrad killed more people than Britain and the United States lost for all time of war.

but agrees with this:
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Originally Posted by Tiutchev (Post 1083472)
life of any human value in itself, regardless of whether the representative of a nation ... he is counting the number of deaths only one nation at the hands of the Nazis, we are creating the basis for a new nationalism.

These two jeopardize your message to each other: do not count in the first-comparison, I agree, incorrectly somehow.


Interestingly, the British honor the memory of those killed in all wars (so even on monuments and memorials written), this is the Crimean War and World War I, World, Iraq, Afghanistan, sorry we have to eom not often you hear (even on the Crimean War there are many in Sevastopol, museums and monuments), but on the First World, anything ....


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