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appolinary 04.09.2009 01:34

Вложений: 9
1. Satoshi Sakamoto
2-3. Shiego Kitazawa
4. François Schlesser
5. Roku Sasaki
6. Harold Hitchcock
7. Olga Spiegel
8-9. Oleg Korolev "Prodigal Son" Oil, Canvas 130cmX90cm 2005.
"Michael" Oil, Canvas 215cmx150cm 2009.

Ninni 04.09.2009 07:42

appolinary,
Excuse me but of course nothing spiritual in these pictures I have not seen.
Continuous attempts to replace the talent - the imaginary "technique" which is nothing but only overloads.
Typically, such a method resorted to those artists who really have nothing to say, but the irrepressible desire to see a professional and convince others - makes carefully working this way.

appolinary 04.09.2009 14:13

Musée de l'Imaginaire. Museum of Art of Imagination Château de Ferrières
 
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Visionary Art Museum and the fantastic realism in a castle Château de Ferrières

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Сообщение от Ninni (Сообщение 585606)
appolinary,
Excuse me but of course nothing spiritual in these pictures I have not seen.
Continuous attempts to replace the talent - the imaginary "technique" which is nothing but only overloads.
Typically, such a method resorted to those artists who really have nothing to say, but the irrepressible desire to see a professional and convince others - makes carefully working this way.

Envy - very bad quality ... ;)

Ninni 04.09.2009 14:48

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Сообщение от appolinary (Сообщение 586476)

Envy - very bad quality ... ;)

If it is addressed to me you little mistake in the direction of ...
I magnanimously forgive you:)
but about the envy agree - the quality bad. Main suffer myself envious:)

Синица 04.09.2009 17:43

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Сообщение от appolinary (Сообщение 586476)
in the castle Château de Ferrières

A pity - such a beautiful castle ...

appolinary 04.09.2009 18:03

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Сообщение от Tit (Сообщение 586986)
It is a pity - such a beautiful castle ...

To high levels it is difficult to get used to, as well as look at the light from the darkness (in your case, the darkness of the spiritual and the technological ignorance). But try, all the same .. time once in your villages and mountain villages to begin to learn to look at something decent;).

Visionary Art Museum and the fantastic realism in a castle Château de Ferrières

1. Biennale International du SIRP de Paris 2008
 
3. Bruno Baratier
4.Thérèse Covarel. Musée de l'Imaginaire, Château de Ferrières.
5. Brigitte Solberg, Musée de l'Imaginaire, Château de Ferrières.
6.François Schlesser peintures et Jean-Jacques Lamenthe sculptures.
Musée de l'Imaginaire, Château de Ferrières.
7.W.Siudmak. Musée de l'Imaginaire, Château de Ferrières.
8. Salle Thérèse COVAREL
9. Château de Ferrières. Musée de l'Imaginaire.

http://www.facebook.com/lolitown#/pr...& ref = mf

http://www.chateaudeferrieres.sorbonne.fr/

http://www.chateaudeferrieres.sorbonne.fr/musee.html

K-Maler 05.09.2009 01:22

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Сообщение от appolinary (Сообщение 61546)
Visionary Art (English Visionary art) - the artistic style, which has basically spontaneous images seen in an altered state of consciousness (altered state of consciousness, ISS), a religious, meditative contemplation, trance, as well as

You are a bit all piled in a heap. Indeed Hesychasts separately, Roerich separately, and started fantastic surrealism was in group A. Breton. Site beinart created one man, he and his supporters are very selectively inviting artists to go there. You are right in that line "fantastic and wonderful" has long had a place, one of which Bosch is ... We have about it, except the classics, little known, but supporters have (for example, site florus-art.narod.ru). This artist is like the owner beinart and it included one of his paintings in his collection. Some great philosophers, such as E. Junger wondered about the nature and ineradicable craving for the fantastic people, where this place ... But it is not called visions. Was a visionary, for example, E. Swedenborg, Swedish mystic, ie he saw the "reality" a multitude of visions and then wrote about it ...

appolinary 05.09.2009 02:22

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You are a bit all piled in a heap. Indeed Hesychasts separately, Roerich separately, and started fantastic surrealism was in group A. Breton. Site beinart created one man, he and his supporters are very selectively inviting artists to go there. You are right in that line "fantastic and wonderful" has long had a place, one of which Bosch is ... We have about it, except the classics, little known, but supporters have (for example, site florus-art.narod.ru). This artist is like the owner beinart and it included one of his paintings in his collection. Some great philosophers, such as E. Junger wondered about the nature and ineradicable craving for the fantastic people, where this place ... But it is not called visions. Was a visionary, for example, E. Swedenborg, Swedish mystic, ie he saw the "reality" a multitude of visions and then wrote about it ...


Generality Roerich Isihastskimi painters are not in the nature of their religious doctrines (it is quite differently, you certainly are right), and introverted approach and mystical contemplation. For Russia, this type of creativity is not an alien or something new. Hesychasts visionaries is the ultimate reality. Yazykov IK
PAINTING Isichasm doctrine of the light of Tabor and iconography
http://www.hesychasm.ru/library/creation/yazik.htm
This is what today (including the psychonauts-ahuyaskero etc., such as Alex Gray http://alexgrey.com/ and Roberto Venosa http://venosa.com/) in a big generalization, called a visionary, a contemplative approach (Visionary Art).

Fantastic Realism went out of the Neo-Romanticism (Neo-humanism) Chelishchev and Berman,

Neo-Romanticism

From: The Oxford Dictionary of Art|Date: 2004|Author: IAN CHILVERS|Â © The Oxford Dictionary of Art 2004, originally published by Oxford University Press 2004.


Neo-Romanticism. A movement in British painting and other arts c.1935-55, in which a number of loosely affiliated artists looked back to certain aspects of 19th-century Romanticism, particularly the 'visionary' landscape tradition of William Blake and Samuel Palmer, and reinterpreted them in a more modern idiom. The term was coined by the critic Raymond Mortimer in 1942. Painters and graphic artists representative of the movement include John Minton, John Piper, and Graham Sutherland, who all worked in a landscape tradition that was regarded as distinctly national, and projected a Romantic image of the countryside at a time when it was under threat from Nazi Germany. Other artists whose work has been dubbed Neo-Romantic include the poet Dylan Thomas, the film director Michael Powell, and photographers such as Bill Brandt and Edwin Smith. The term Neo-Romanticism has also been applied to certain painters working in France in the 1930s, notably Berman and Tchelitchew, who typically painted dreamlike imaginary landscapes with rather mournful figures. Their work influenced the British Neo-Romantics.

In the 1980s 'Neo-Romanticism' was one of the many terms used as a synonym for Neo-Expressionism, but it did not catch on in this sense.

read more: http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O2-NeoRomanticism.html

Vienna and his school came under the influence of Ernst Fuchs and others (made up to this day, in the same Order, and that once Junger) - Order of Alexander the Great, where he is, Arno Breker and Dali were the "Golden Triangle".

This can be found in the article itself Dali
THE GENIUS AND THE DIVINE
By Salvador Dalí
at Alexander Order
http://www.meaus.com/genius.html

The main difference between fantastic realism of Visionary Art, in fact,
that it is based to a greater extent than on empirical and personal mystical experience, but on the art of imagination and fantasy on themes related to the various sacred texts (or any other topic). By its very nature it is Romanticism.

Thanks for the link to your artist! Please Stand here the work of those authors who consider his style as a communion to the mystical, fantastic realism as well as for Visionary Art.

ps. As Johnny Beinarta, it is my bad sign.

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http://www.artnet.com/Magazine/featu...sohn8-27-9.jpg
Portrait of Pavel Tchelitchew
George Platt Lynes
ca. 1948

Pavel Tchelitchew was one of the Russian Visionary artists of the beginning and middle of 20 century.

Pavel Tchelitchew Russian Surrealist Painter, [1898-1957]
http://www.artcyclopedia.com/artists...hew_pavel.html

"The Russian painter Pavel Tchelitchew was one of the great visionary artists of the twentieth century (his obsession with anatomy and mysticism relates to my own work). Tchelitchew's paintings evolved through metamorphic symbolism to x-ray anatomical figures glowing with inner light, and eventually progressed to luminous, abstract networks. "

In his article What is Visionary Art? By Alex Grey
Alex Gray spoke directly about the impact on his work of the Russian artist Pavel Chelishchev.
http://beinart.org/info/essays/alex-...ionary-art.php


http://photo.nesterova.ru/albums/use...0001/1 ~ 4.jpg

"Interior Landscape". Papier, pastel, 50 x 32.4 cm, 1949.


http://photo.nesterova.ru/albums/userpics/10001/23.jpg
"God of the rain" gouache 56 x 38 cm. 1947


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/246/4...2d123bf837.jpg

Some works by Pavel Tchelitchew you may see here:
http://photo.nesterova.ru/thumbnails.php?album=54


By the way Pavel Tchelitchew, and Nikolai Kalmakoff were visonary artists in the European-modernists sense ... I would call them "artists from some Paris cafe".

http://all-photo.ru/empire/photos/2746-0.jpg
Nokolai Kalmakoff 1920.
http://www.johncoulthart.com/feuille...09/astarte.jpg
Astarte (1926).
http://visionaryrevue.com/webtext3/k.gal.html

http://www.taynovedenie.ru/teachers/nikolayrerih.jpg
But Nikolai Roerich was also a sort of a spiritual teacher (he was one of the founders of the Theosophy teaching and the society) ... Lived for many years in the Himalayan mountains ... I don't think that New Age movement could be possible without of the Theosophical base.

Here is one of his visionary (automatic) drawings (of the teachers from Shambala, during of their contact to him).
http://gallery.facets.ru/pic/Allal-Ming_ [1920]. jpg
Nikolai Roerich 1920.

http://gallery.facets.ru/pic/Mater_T...[1924_g.]. jpg
1924 "Mather of Turfan"

http://gallery.facets.ru/pic/Mater_Mira_ [1930_g.]. jpg
1930 "Mather of the world"

(From http://gallery.facets.ru/catalog.php).

appolinary 05.09.2009 23:07

Ernst Fuchs (Ernst Fuchs) and its museum.
 
Вложений: 10
http://www.ernstfuchs-zentrum.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Fuchs_ (artist )

K-Maler 06.09.2009 01:54

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Сообщение от appolinary (Сообщение 587506)
Please Stand here the work of those authors who consider his style as a communion to the mystical, fantastic realism as well as for Visionary Art.

ps. As Johnny Beinarta, it is good sign to me

Thank you for the opportunity to see unique photos of the museum Fuchs. Yes, there is something special, drop down from the general scheme. The phrase "like-dislike" is not even fit ... See more in detail the site that I gave above, go there on the links, there is linked almost three sites and there are artists in varying degrees involved in such ideas ... Some stories are at A. Fuchs Isacheva (India, magic, etc.), there is Tibet ... Chelishchev surprised me ...


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